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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceFractal" data-source="post: 3793526" data-attributes="member: 27704">Someone, I can't remember who right now, made a very good case that the highest level any actual historical person ever reached was 5th level.  Einstein? 5th level.  Genghis Khan?  5th level. The scale was roughly:1st level - Most people2nd level - Highly competent people; they could start a successful business, for example.3rd level - Exceptional people4th level - World-famous people (olympic athletes, nobel prize winners, etc)5th level - Historically-famous peopleThen you have legendary people at 6th-7th people (Aragorn was pegged at 5th-6th level, for instance), the stuff of epics at 8th-9th level, and mythical heroes like Hercules at 10th level (and Hercules might not even be 10th level, this is approximate).  And from there, it just goes up higher.So the question is: Does it seem reasonable that Hercules could fall off that building and walk away?  IMO, yes it does.  I mean, a 10th level character is CR 10.  CR 10 includes things like Nine-headed Hydras, Fire Giants, Adult Dragons, and scorpions the size of a house.  Those things are not normal creatures and 10th level characters are not normal people.NOTE: I'm using 3E levels here - in 4E, for instance, if they go with the 4-14 = 1-30 we've heard mentioned, level 18 is the new level 10.</blockquote>