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Gray Dragon from Draconomicon is potential TPK with little effort
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<blockquote data-quote="Rartemass" data-source="post: 4646597" data-attributes="member: 82261"><p>The Gray Dragon from the Draconimicon is potentially a total party killer without much effort.</p><p>I wanted a clarification to see if this was the intent or if I'm missing something.</p><p></p><p>Some assumptions:</p><p>A level 27 Fighter would have a Fortitude of 38.</p><p>*23 for half level plus 10</p><p>*assuming a +7 bonus via stats</p><p>*fortitude +2 as a fighter</p><p>*Amulet Protection +6</p><p></p><p>Penalties to Dragon</p><p>*Dragon is marked, -2 to hit.</p><p></p><p>Tactics for TPK.</p><p><u>Round One</u></p><p>*Ancient Gray Dragon uses it Breath Weapon (BW). This immobilises all characters it hits.</p><p>+35 to hit with BW normally. Taking the above assumptions the dragon would require a 5 on the D20 to hit. A 3 against the marking target. This is not that hard and should hit everyone in the party.</p><p>*Dragon spends an action point to use Stones Embrace (SE). Similar to above but needs an 8 on a D20 to hit. Again not that hard. By this stage the entire party is potentially petrified.</p><p></p><p>*The party makes saving throws during their turns to save from Petrification and become immobilised. Out of 6 party members, at least one would probably fail. </p><p>Dragon immediately uses Infectious Petrification, hitting everyone in the burst on either a 6 or an 8. This should hit the entire party as it has the same radius as Stones Embrace. Even if it misses some of them, if more than one person fails, it gets to attempt another hit at everyone.</p><p></p><p><u>Round Two onward</u></p><p>*Dragon uses Slicing Fury to focus on two characters at a time. Infectious Petrification should take care of keeping them petrified. The Dragon beats down the characters and waits for BW and SE to recharge. Once they recharge, if a character has escaped the petrifiction, the dragon simply does the above combination again.</p><p></p><p>If the party survives the initial two onslaughts and break free of the petrification, the dragon can do the combination again when it uses bloodied breath, as long as SE has recharged.</p><p></p><p>Granted I haven't looked at all abilites, feats, and magic items available to characters, however there doesn't seem to be anything to prevent the above.</p><p></p><p>Am I missing something here or is this dragon an ultimate killer?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rartemass, post: 4646597, member: 82261"] The Gray Dragon from the Draconimicon is potentially a total party killer without much effort. I wanted a clarification to see if this was the intent or if I'm missing something. Some assumptions: A level 27 Fighter would have a Fortitude of 38. *23 for half level plus 10 *assuming a +7 bonus via stats *fortitude +2 as a fighter *Amulet Protection +6 Penalties to Dragon *Dragon is marked, -2 to hit. Tactics for TPK. [U]Round One[/U] *Ancient Gray Dragon uses it Breath Weapon (BW). This immobilises all characters it hits. +35 to hit with BW normally. Taking the above assumptions the dragon would require a 5 on the D20 to hit. A 3 against the marking target. This is not that hard and should hit everyone in the party. *Dragon spends an action point to use Stones Embrace (SE). Similar to above but needs an 8 on a D20 to hit. Again not that hard. By this stage the entire party is potentially petrified. *The party makes saving throws during their turns to save from Petrification and become immobilised. Out of 6 party members, at least one would probably fail. Dragon immediately uses Infectious Petrification, hitting everyone in the burst on either a 6 or an 8. This should hit the entire party as it has the same radius as Stones Embrace. Even if it misses some of them, if more than one person fails, it gets to attempt another hit at everyone. [U]Round Two onward[/U] *Dragon uses Slicing Fury to focus on two characters at a time. Infectious Petrification should take care of keeping them petrified. The Dragon beats down the characters and waits for BW and SE to recharge. Once they recharge, if a character has escaped the petrifiction, the dragon simply does the above combination again. If the party survives the initial two onslaughts and break free of the petrification, the dragon can do the combination again when it uses bloodied breath, as long as SE has recharged. Granted I haven't looked at all abilites, feats, and magic items available to characters, however there doesn't seem to be anything to prevent the above. Am I missing something here or is this dragon an ultimate killer? [/QUOTE]
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