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Graz'zt, the spawn of Pale Night.... and Nyarlathotep?
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<blockquote data-quote="Wishbone" data-source="post: 8073225" data-attributes="member: 7025531"><p>It comes up in the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090603084639/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drigg/20071024" target="_blank">Demonomicon of Iggwilv article</a> on Graz'zt as a possible origin that Graz'zt is the son of Pale Night and Asmodeus/Loki/Set/a baernaloth/a cosmic entity of a thousand names and crawling chaos (sounds like Nyarlathotep!).</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">"The exact nature of the entity that Pale Night ensnared and mated with has long been the subject of debate among scholars. Those with their own desires and allegiances invoke names such as Asmodeus, Loki, Set, or even one of the ancient baernaloths, perhaps basing their theories more upon personal prejudice and loyalty than actual evidence. Others maintain that she chose as her mate the patriarch of an ancient race of immortal warriors from an alternate reality. Some hold it was the Abyss itself Pale Night called into her vault. A few ancient and ageless scholars believe that Pale Night was not, in fact, the aggressor in this matter, but that one of the Old Gods themselves, a cosmic entity of a thousand names and crawling chaos, visited Pale Night from his own court at the center of the universe, leaving her impregnated in an attempt to spawn a race of demons who would fulfill unknowable roles in his own dire plans for reality."</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know 4th edition said Graz'zt was a former archdevil who served Asmodeus turned demon lord who wasn't actually directly related to Pale Night. One option could be that Pale Night was responsible for converting Graz'zt from an archdevil into a demon lord and is thus his "mother." Multiple origin stories for the prince of lies would make sense. Very Joker-esque to have a backstory that's multiple choice!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wishbone, post: 8073225, member: 7025531"] It comes up in the [URL='https://web.archive.org/web/20090603084639/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drigg/20071024']Demonomicon of Iggwilv article[/URL] on Graz'zt as a possible origin that Graz'zt is the son of Pale Night and Asmodeus/Loki/Set/a baernaloth/a cosmic entity of a thousand names and crawling chaos (sounds like Nyarlathotep!). [INDENT]"The exact nature of the entity that Pale Night ensnared and mated with has long been the subject of debate among scholars. Those with their own desires and allegiances invoke names such as Asmodeus, Loki, Set, or even one of the ancient baernaloths, perhaps basing their theories more upon personal prejudice and loyalty than actual evidence. Others maintain that she chose as her mate the patriarch of an ancient race of immortal warriors from an alternate reality. Some hold it was the Abyss itself Pale Night called into her vault. A few ancient and ageless scholars believe that Pale Night was not, in fact, the aggressor in this matter, but that one of the Old Gods themselves, a cosmic entity of a thousand names and crawling chaos, visited Pale Night from his own court at the center of the universe, leaving her impregnated in an attempt to spawn a race of demons who would fulfill unknowable roles in his own dire plans for reality."[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] I know 4th edition said Graz'zt was a former archdevil who served Asmodeus turned demon lord who wasn't actually directly related to Pale Night. One option could be that Pale Night was responsible for converting Graz'zt from an archdevil into a demon lord and is thus his "mother." Multiple origin stories for the prince of lies would make sense. Very Joker-esque to have a backstory that's multiple choice! [/QUOTE]
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