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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 989239" data-attributes="member: 99">I don't find this to be a compelling argument (I'm not claiming that it is invalid, it just doesn't work for me).  There are lots of things the rules don't specify that I wouldn't allow because they seem (to me) to lie outside the specific parameters of what the spell could and should allow.The Grease spell doesn't say that someone coated with it CAN'T "move like greased lightning", allowing them to "skate" across even surfaces at Speed 50 provided they make a DC20 Balance check every round.  Just because it isn't banned in the spell description doesn't mean I think it should be allowed.Which is not to say that creative use of spells is discouraged in my games.  If somebody wanted to target a fellow party member with Grease to help them escape from being tied up or Webbed or to squeeze through a tight space, I'd give them a Circumstance Bonus in a heartbeat.  I don't think that it is assumed that any grease will burn and therefore don't feel the need to add a potential damage component to the spell.Consider that we're talking about a spell that lasts for 1 round per level.  If somebody takes 1d6/round from flaming grease, you've got the potential for a 5th level caster to do 5d6 damage (assuming that you get a fellow party member or your familiar with a Tindertwig to light it) to multiple targets in the area of effect if they fail all their Reflex saves (a distinct possibility against low dex mook fighter types).  That's like a mini fireball for the cost of a 1st level spell.I'm not swayed by a damage comparison to Magic Missile, which takes a 9th level caster to get full benefit from (you could be doing up to 9d6 with Fiery Grease by that point).  Plus, Magic Missile ONLY deals damage and doesn't have nearly the creative possibilities for utility that Grease does.Apples and Oranges if you asked me.  Oranges that are still very nice, even if they don't catch on fire easily and burn for 1d6 damage every round.</blockquote>

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