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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 996824" data-attributes="member: 6239">You can't argue against a house rule.  "I say fireball lights things on fire."  In that game, it does.  But if some person says "you can't move yourself with the telekinisis spell, because the spell doesn't say you can, that is what fly is for" I am going to be pissed.  If something says it creates paper, I will assume normal paper.  As a player, I have to make basic assumption about the world because the DM can't spell out everything.  A good starting assumption is that anything created by magic will act like a normal item unless stated otherwise.  Hence, grease (as understood in a fantasy setting) would burn.  I can't make any assumption about how well, but I can assume it will burn in some way.Can you think of any non-burnable grease that does fit setting?  If you can, I might just change my opinion <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Naw, that defination doesn't give you flash points or the temperature of the average flame.  Those would be more important, but the definition doesn't give those.  Besides, OSHA is just there to make companies sweat. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />A medieval torch is a stick, wrapped in cloth soaked in oil.  That is going to burn pretty hot.  I am almost tempted to try this now.  (mmm, fire.....)I think a DM that says "it says it creates grease, but that isn't real grease" is reading beyond the spell and house ruling.  A DM that says "Ok, the furnace flares for a second and then dies down again dealing no extra damage" is keeping the "realism" without letting the players get an undue advantage.  It doesn't have to be a good tatic to suit me, it just has to do something.I have to make some assumption.  Given the material, I would have to say it would burn since that is what "normal" grease would do.  This doesn't mean much other than it will produce flame if very hot.  It might be anything from a great fire trap to a rather crappy flare.Players expectation should be that the world works a specific way, normally like ours.  As a DM, we have to maintain that effect.  So, anytime something isn't stated, whatever would be logical for the situation should be the default.  By default, grease in a medieval setting burns.If it is something other than normal grease, the spell should state that.  I should be able to assume, for example, that a mount from the spell can eat and isn't some obvious construct.  If you want to change that, it is house rule.  Normal unless stated otherwise.Crude oil qualifies as an oily substance, in accord with the general definition that someone posted.We aren't talking about a helpless person.  And I don't think 6 seconds of a blowtorch would kill a person.  It will hurt them, but it is no 5d6.I think that was a quote of some pyro character somewhere. Not important.Good, because I am not really fluent in 133t and would hate to have to learn it just for this.  I am only fluent in english, c++, php, and mispelled englsh. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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