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<blockquote data-quote="carmachu" data-source="post: 4372719" data-attributes="member: 34534">But then it becomes is it worth the bother. And at the moment.....apparantly no its not.&nbsp;I see three folks moving folward at any pace: Godman games-which is unsuprising, Kenzer and Whoever is doing a new EARTHDAWN game.&nbsp;Everyone else, it seems, doesnt see the worth of it, yet. If there is one.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But what did all those have in common, that 4e does not? Its not that each is different or an improvement(one could quibble that 2nd ed was not, really an improvement), each was, for the most part a continuality.&nbsp;4e is radically different. Better? Subjective.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Says you. Its not for the game table. Its for the DM, just like the original. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;They had that presentation over a year ago, and married the new system to it. So far, its undelivered and not looking very good.&nbsp;Having an idea is one thing, and they have that. The follow through, however, has been abyssmal. We'll see which one is right.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="carmachu, post: 4372719, member: 34534"] But then it becomes is it worth the bother. And at the moment.....apparantly no its not. I see three folks moving folward at any pace: Godman games-which is unsuprising, Kenzer and Whoever is doing a new EARTHDAWN game. Everyone else, it seems, doesnt see the worth of it, yet. If there is one. But what did all those have in common, that 4e does not? Its not that each is different or an improvement(one could quibble that 2nd ed was not, really an improvement), each was, for the most part a continuality. 4e is radically different. Better? Subjective. Says you. Its not for the game table. Its for the DM, just like the original. They had that presentation over a year ago, and married the new system to it. So far, its undelivered and not looking very good. Having an idea is one thing, and they have that. The follow through, however, has been abyssmal. We'll see which one is right. [/QUOTE]

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