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<blockquote data-quote="reveal" data-source="post: 2462995" data-attributes="member: 1236"><p><strong>Gomez:</strong> I've already voted. Please don't think this is another vote. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I agree. Even though I liked some villains better than others, I still voted for who I thought was the better, more evil, villain. Here's what I chose and why.</p><p></p><p>1. Agent Smith (The Matrix) vs <strong>Hannibal Lector</strong> - Smith is a cool villain but Lecter is pure evil. He's smart and doesn't have Smith's resources to do his bad duty. Lecter manipulated everyone. From his fans (Red Dragon) to the agent trying to interview him (Silence of the Lambs). Smith simply used force of numbers to get what he wanted.</p><p></p><p>2. <strong>Great Cthulhu</strong> vs Darth Vader - I love Vader. Personally, I think he's a lot cooler the Cthulu. But Vader was not always evil. He was a good kid who was brainwashed into becoming a Sith. When the chips were down, he ended up choosing good over evil. Cthulu is pure, unadulterated evil. If his son were being killed by the Emperor, Cthulu would have just eaten them both and been done with it.</p><p></p><p>3. <strong>Professor James Moriarty (Sherlock Holmes)</strong> vs Docter Octopus - Moriarty only appeared in 2 Sherlock Holmes stories, yet we remember him as one of the greatest villains of all time. Why? Because Sherlock Holmes, the greatest detective of all time, respected him. Moriarty was always one step ahead and Holmes. He used his wits and planning to pull off his crimes. Octopus, while one of my favorites as a Spidey fan for the last 20+ years, just isn't in the same league.</p><p></p><p>4. <strong>The Joker</strong> vs Cigarette Smoking Man (X-Files) - The Joker is psychotic. He will do anything, to anyone, at any time to make his plans come to fruition. But he's also smart. He can push Batman's buttons to make him do something Batman normally would never do. He's killed Robin and caused Batman to kill him. CSM was a bad-ass, but just not as evil.</p><p></p><p>5. <strong>Galactus </strong>vs Graf Orlock (Nosferatu) - Power. Pure unadulterated power. Yes, Graf Orlock was scary. But Galactus can eat planets and does. Power wins over scariness in this one.</p><p></p><p>6. <strong>Napoleon the Pig (Animal Farm)</strong> vs Jack Torrence (The Shining) - Jack was nuts. That's really it. A great bad guy but simply crazy. Napoleon, on the other hand, manipulated everyone from the beginning. In the end, he gets what he wants and everyone else gets crapped on. That's a great villain.</p><p></p><p>7. John Doe (Se7en) vs <strong>Emperor Palpatine</strong> - Doe was, again, nuts. He was smart enough to get away with what he did but, in the end, he was just a crazy guy who liked to kill people. Palpatine was brilliant. He manipulated everyone. He started a war by using the system. He took over an entire federation of planets simply by playing politics. He got everything he wanted and only ever lifted a finger to fight once, and even then it was only because he was being attacked.</p><p></p><p>8. Wile E. Coyote vs <strong>Mr. Edward Hyde</strong> - Not even close on this one. Coyote is not a villain. He's not evil; he's hungry.</p><p></p><p>9. Lord Voldemort vs <strong>Strahd Von Zarovich (Ravenloft)</strong> - This one was really tough. I chose Zarovich only because he's more established than Zarovich. If this was done 15 years from now and people still remember Voldemort as a great bad guy, then I'd probably vote for him.</p><p></p><p>10. <strong>Ernst Stavro Blofeld (James Bond)</strong> vs Mr. Burns - I am a huge Simpsons fan. But the only reason Mr. Burns gets away with things is because of the incompetence of others. Blofeld gets away with his plans in spite of the tenacity of James Bond and British Intelligence.</p><p></p><p>11. Sauron (Lord of the Rings) vs <strong>Randall Flagg (The Stand)</strong> - Both of these two are pure evil. Sauron was the ring. Randall Flagg was the bad guy in a lot of King novels. I chose Flagg simply because he tried so many times and killed so many people manipulatively unlike Sauron who mainly killed people by having orcs attack en masse.</p><p></p><p>12. Dr. Fu Manchu vs <strong>Megatron</strong> - I admit, I chose Megatron in this case because he's a Transformer and I never liked Fu Manchu. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>13. <strong>Pinhead (Hellraiser)</strong> vs Thoth-Amon (Conan Stories) - Pinhead is from Hell. He is the leader of the Cenobites. He kills without conscience. He's a much better villain simply because he doesn't care who he kills or how, he just does it.</p><p></p><p>14. The Master (Dr. Who) vs <strong>Khan Noonian Singh (Star Trek)</strong> - KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!</p><p></p><p>15. Lex Luthor vs <strong>Dracula</strong> - Not even close here. Dracula is pure, unadulterated evil. He doesn't care about anyone but himself and will use anything/anybody to get what he wants. Lex does the same, true, but he just doesn't do it on the same level and, sometimes, will work with the good guys to get what he wants. Dracula would never demean himself like that.</p><p></p><p>16. Gollum vs <strong>Hal 9000</strong> - Golem was a conflicted being. A split personality does not a villain make. Hal couldn't be anything but evil. There was no pleading with him; no trying to play to his humanity. He was cold and calculating with no emotion to get in his way. That's just scary evil.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reveal, post: 2462995, member: 1236"] [B]Gomez:[/B] I've already voted. Please don't think this is another vote. :D I agree. Even though I liked some villains better than others, I still voted for who I thought was the better, more evil, villain. Here's what I chose and why. 1. Agent Smith (The Matrix) vs [B]Hannibal Lector[/B] - Smith is a cool villain but Lecter is pure evil. He's smart and doesn't have Smith's resources to do his bad duty. Lecter manipulated everyone. From his fans (Red Dragon) to the agent trying to interview him (Silence of the Lambs). Smith simply used force of numbers to get what he wanted. 2. [B]Great Cthulhu[/B] vs Darth Vader - I love Vader. Personally, I think he's a lot cooler the Cthulu. But Vader was not always evil. He was a good kid who was brainwashed into becoming a Sith. When the chips were down, he ended up choosing good over evil. Cthulu is pure, unadulterated evil. If his son were being killed by the Emperor, Cthulu would have just eaten them both and been done with it. 3. [B]Professor James Moriarty (Sherlock Holmes)[/B] vs Docter Octopus - Moriarty only appeared in 2 Sherlock Holmes stories, yet we remember him as one of the greatest villains of all time. Why? Because Sherlock Holmes, the greatest detective of all time, respected him. Moriarty was always one step ahead and Holmes. He used his wits and planning to pull off his crimes. Octopus, while one of my favorites as a Spidey fan for the last 20+ years, just isn't in the same league. 4. [B]The Joker[/B] vs Cigarette Smoking Man (X-Files) - The Joker is psychotic. He will do anything, to anyone, at any time to make his plans come to fruition. But he's also smart. He can push Batman's buttons to make him do something Batman normally would never do. He's killed Robin and caused Batman to kill him. CSM was a bad-ass, but just not as evil. 5. [B]Galactus [/B]vs Graf Orlock (Nosferatu) - Power. Pure unadulterated power. Yes, Graf Orlock was scary. But Galactus can eat planets and does. Power wins over scariness in this one. 6. [b]Napoleon the Pig (Animal Farm)[/b] vs Jack Torrence (The Shining) - Jack was nuts. That's really it. A great bad guy but simply crazy. Napoleon, on the other hand, manipulated everyone from the beginning. In the end, he gets what he wants and everyone else gets crapped on. That's a great villain. 7. John Doe (Se7en) vs [B]Emperor Palpatine[/B] - Doe was, again, nuts. He was smart enough to get away with what he did but, in the end, he was just a crazy guy who liked to kill people. Palpatine was brilliant. He manipulated everyone. He started a war by using the system. He took over an entire federation of planets simply by playing politics. He got everything he wanted and only ever lifted a finger to fight once, and even then it was only because he was being attacked. 8. Wile E. Coyote vs [B]Mr. Edward Hyde[/B] - Not even close on this one. Coyote is not a villain. He's not evil; he's hungry. 9. Lord Voldemort vs [B]Strahd Von Zarovich (Ravenloft)[/B] - This one was really tough. I chose Zarovich only because he's more established than Zarovich. If this was done 15 years from now and people still remember Voldemort as a great bad guy, then I'd probably vote for him. 10. [B]Ernst Stavro Blofeld (James Bond)[/B] vs Mr. Burns - I am a huge Simpsons fan. But the only reason Mr. Burns gets away with things is because of the incompetence of others. Blofeld gets away with his plans in spite of the tenacity of James Bond and British Intelligence. 11. Sauron (Lord of the Rings) vs [B]Randall Flagg (The Stand)[/B] - Both of these two are pure evil. Sauron was the ring. Randall Flagg was the bad guy in a lot of King novels. I chose Flagg simply because he tried so many times and killed so many people manipulatively unlike Sauron who mainly killed people by having orcs attack en masse. 12. Dr. Fu Manchu vs [B]Megatron[/B] - I admit, I chose Megatron in this case because he's a Transformer and I never liked Fu Manchu. :) 13. [B]Pinhead (Hellraiser)[/B] vs Thoth-Amon (Conan Stories) - Pinhead is from Hell. He is the leader of the Cenobites. He kills without conscience. He's a much better villain simply because he doesn't care who he kills or how, he just does it. 14. The Master (Dr. Who) vs [B]Khan Noonian Singh (Star Trek)[/B] - KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! 15. Lex Luthor vs [B]Dracula[/B] - Not even close here. Dracula is pure, unadulterated evil. He doesn't care about anyone but himself and will use anything/anybody to get what he wants. Lex does the same, true, but he just doesn't do it on the same level and, sometimes, will work with the good guys to get what he wants. Dracula would never demean himself like that. 16. Gollum vs [B]Hal 9000[/B] - Golem was a conflicted being. A split personality does not a villain make. Hal couldn't be anything but evil. There was no pleading with him; no trying to play to his humanity. He was cold and calculating with no emotion to get in his way. That's just scary evil. [/QUOTE]
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