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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 2488169" data-attributes="member: 9298">DARTH VADER? I have no idea what is going on.Some people hate the prequels so much, they are completely devaluing the effect that the original trilogy has on all (most?) of us.Others are saying the Vader epitomizes cool villain , but giving the nod to Joker anyway.And the last group are giving the win to Joker outright, talking about he epitomized chaos and is therefore scarier.Joker is just a psychotic with an unhealthy man-crush on another psychotic.  He's had just as many embarassing moments as teenage-Vader, they just havent been publicized to the same level as the prequels. Vader was the front man for a reign of terror that last an entire generation. For over 20 years, he was the symbol of fear throughout the galaxy. Until he faced his own son, nobody was able to stop him.The Joker? He gets beaten and thrown in an asylum every other week, and only continues to live because Batman is still an 8 year old with issues about death.  Any SANE hero would have ended Joker's career....permanently.the vote goes where it was always gonna go... to a Vader victory.</blockquote>