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Great weapon fighter is a "trap"? Forked Thread: I don't optimize.
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<blockquote data-quote="Goumindong" data-source="post: 4400552" data-attributes="member: 70874"><p>You're right. It does not say that you cannot wear clothes under your full plate armor. <strong>It does say that you cannot benefit from clothes under your full plate armor</strong></p><p></p><p>It does not say that you cannot wear a shield and bracers. <strong>It does say that you cannot benefit from both a shield and bracers</strong></p><p></p><p>I don't know if its the explicit rules text on page 224 that say "You can only benefit from one item that occupies any given item slot" or its the rules text on page 224 that says "you benefit from the first item that you put on and you must take that item off to benefit from anything else" that is confusing, but its got to be something in there.</p><p></p><p>So: RAW says "you can't use bracers and a shield at the same time"</p><p></p><p>And RAI says the same thing, since the item mechanics are there in order to force players to make choices as to what items they want rather than letting them stick anything wherever they want.</p><p></p><p>Cloth Armor gives you a benefit. When you wear it, you count as wearing light armor, which gives you a bonus to your AC equal to your dexterity. You can use powers that require you to use light armor and gain other bonuses associated with it.</p><p></p><p>RAI is there in the item rules to say "hey dude, you can't wield a bunch of things at the same time and benefit from all of them, its stupid"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually there is. The game explicitly mentions physical limitations to using too many tiems. You cannot hold 42 greatswords in your left hand, you cannot wield any greatswords in one hand since they are two handed weapons. Ergo the rules explicitly say you can only use one greatsword at a time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A person can reasonably "use" goggles and a diadem at the same time. A person can "reasonably use" many many things to utterly break the game, and that is why we have all these rules that note when you cannot do that even if a "person could reasonably do it"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goumindong, post: 4400552, member: 70874"] You're right. It does not say that you cannot wear clothes under your full plate armor. [b]It does say that you cannot benefit from clothes under your full plate armor[/b] It does not say that you cannot wear a shield and bracers. [b]It does say that you cannot benefit from both a shield and bracers[/b] I don't know if its the explicit rules text on page 224 that say "You can only benefit from one item that occupies any given item slot" or its the rules text on page 224 that says "you benefit from the first item that you put on and you must take that item off to benefit from anything else" that is confusing, but its got to be something in there. So: RAW says "you can't use bracers and a shield at the same time" And RAI says the same thing, since the item mechanics are there in order to force players to make choices as to what items they want rather than letting them stick anything wherever they want. Cloth Armor gives you a benefit. When you wear it, you count as wearing light armor, which gives you a bonus to your AC equal to your dexterity. You can use powers that require you to use light armor and gain other bonuses associated with it. RAI is there in the item rules to say "hey dude, you can't wield a bunch of things at the same time and benefit from all of them, its stupid" Actually there is. The game explicitly mentions physical limitations to using too many tiems. You cannot hold 42 greatswords in your left hand, you cannot wield any greatswords in one hand since they are two handed weapons. Ergo the rules explicitly say you can only use one greatsword at a time. A person can reasonably "use" goggles and a diadem at the same time. A person can "reasonably use" many many things to utterly break the game, and that is why we have all these rules that note when you cannot do that even if a "person could reasonably do it" [/QUOTE]
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