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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Archmage" data-source="post: 4402046" data-attributes="member: 6760">The "specific grievance" would be that the rationale is wrong. You're quoting text that specifically refers to magic items and saying that it applies to normal shields as well. Specific quotes from the text:"You can benefit from only one magic item that you wear in your arms slot even if, practically speaking, you can wear bracers and carry a shield at the same time."That pretty plainly says that you can benefit from only one magic item, and it is not fluff text - it is in the text defining magic item categories.Sometimes there are physical limitations as well—you can’t wear two helms at the same time. Surely you can't think that this applies to bracers and a shield - no such physical limitation applies. Let's go farther back in the rules:Light Shield: You need to use your shield hand to wield a light shield properly. You can still use that hand to hold another item, to climb, or the like. However, you can’t use your shield hand to make attacks.Heavy Shield: When you use a heavy shield, you gain a greater bonus to your AC and Reflex defense, but you can’t use your shield hand for any other task.This is from the definition of shields in the Equipment chapter, page 214. The only restriction here is on what your shield hand can be used for. Clearly, nothing here prohibits the use of magical bracers. I can't find anything in the RAW that would prohibit using a non-magical shield while wearing (and using) magical bracers. The passages you are using to defend the counterpoint all refer specifically to magic items that occupy the same slot.  As others have said, there are no slots for non-magical items. A non-magical shield doesn't use an "arm slot" - it must be strapped to an arm, and there are limitations to what you can do with the hand on that arm, but that is NOT the same thing as an item slot. Those are specifically defined under the heading "Magic Item Categories:" These are called item slots, and they provide a practical limit to the number of magic items you can wear and use." It may be a perfectly reasonable house rule to say that you can't use a normal shield with magical bracers, but that's exactly what it would be - a house rule.</blockquote>

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