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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 6522860" data-attributes="member: 6939">GWF helps in *all* situations, Bless helps in all situations, etc. GWM only helps for certain AC and below... This is just.... not right....The +10 from GWM is balanced by the -5 to hit, which you have decided to completely ignore in your 'analysis'... lets look at your example from a more likely scenario.Lvl 12 20 Str GWF action surge halberd +9 to hit, fighting a CR11 Djinni AC17 (No GWM, no PAM)Average Dmg: 46.0 hpNow lets add GWMAverage Dmg: 53.0 hp  Not bad, an increase of 15.3%Okay, instead of using GWM, lets just switch from Halberd to Greatsword:Average Dmg: 54.5 hp.  An  increase of 18.5%So now, lets forget GWM and GS, and look at PAMAverage Dmg: 52.1 hp.  Only an increase of 13.2%. BUT... for every other non-Action-surge round, it is an increase of *26.4%* Much better than either GS or GWMSo if GWM needs to be nerfed, so do great swords, and PAM *really* needs to be nerfed.."But wait Coredump, what if I am already using Greatsword, then surely GWM is broken then"Lets lookFrom above attacking with GSAverage damage: 54.5 hpNow with GS *and* GWMAverage damage: 58.5   So an increase of 7.3%  The belief that GWM contributes "41%" of the damage is.... just not right.</blockquote>