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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 6523420" data-attributes="member: 6939">Okay, so the shorter version of your post is "I don't agree because I don't believe Math is real".  There is nothing 'vague' about the maths involved, the game design and balance is based largely on the exact same math I am doing.  You like to use the term "whiteroom" as if it just magically makes you right....  sorry, but if you need an 11 to hit, you have the same chance of hitting as missing... there is no 'whiteroom vagueness'.The averaging process *does* take into account the chance of a higher output, it also takes into account the greater chance of NO damage output; that is why it is considered the 'average' of *all* the damage output.And lets get something straight... these are not *MY* examples..... just about every example I have used, as come from one of you trying to show how GWM is 'broken'.  I take *YOUR* example and actually do the math to show the reality, instead of whatever assumptions you guys make.The Greatsword with GWF will do more damage than the halberd.... that is simply a fact. It does not matter how you 'feel' it will work, it does not matter if you want to decry 'whiteroom' about it.  All it means is you refuse to accept it because you don't want to accept it.</blockquote>