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Greater Invisibility and Flanking?
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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9057436" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>When it comes to invisibility or otherwise being heavily obscured, you have to guess where the enemy is. Even if they are not hidden, it does not mean you necessarily know exactly which square they're in (especially since in-world there is no grid). As it states under Unseen Attackers and Targets "<em>If the target isn't in the location you targeted, you automatically miss, but the DM typically just says that the attack missed, not whether you guessed the target's location correctly."</em></p><p></p><p>So details of how accurately you know an invisible enemy's location is largely up to the DM. In the case of flanking I'm not sure it matters, it's the knowledge that there's an enemy that <em>could</em> attack from your flank that matters that would matter to my ruling.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand this whole scenario is obviously an edge case not covered by any rules and why we have DM rulings. I might give the flanked enemy some kind of check such as an intelligence check. There is nothing they can do about the invisible enemy one way or another, so why even bother defending from an attack you cannot see coming? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" data-smilie="24"data-shortname=":unsure:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9057436, member: 6801845"] When it comes to invisibility or otherwise being heavily obscured, you have to guess where the enemy is. Even if they are not hidden, it does not mean you necessarily know exactly which square they're in (especially since in-world there is no grid). As it states under Unseen Attackers and Targets "[I]If the target isn't in the location you targeted, you automatically miss, but the DM typically just says that the attack missed, not whether you guessed the target's location correctly."[/I] So details of how accurately you know an invisible enemy's location is largely up to the DM. In the case of flanking I'm not sure it matters, it's the knowledge that there's an enemy that [I]could[/I] attack from your flank that matters that would matter to my ruling. On the other hand this whole scenario is obviously an edge case not covered by any rules and why we have DM rulings. I might give the flanked enemy some kind of check such as an intelligence check. There is nothing they can do about the invisible enemy one way or another, so why even bother defending from an attack you cannot see coming? :unsure: [/QUOTE]
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