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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 903650" data-attributes="member: 1656">Of course, the Magic Vestment one was the Sage's "correction" to that freaky phrase that had us all tied in knots... that doesn't appear in any form in the GMW spell text.It also ties directly into the Divine Shield argument.But if we break the question down into its two parts, and ignore the epic cap part... forget the Dancing and Brilliant Energy.If we have a +1 Defending longsword, it is a sword with a +1 Enhancement bonus, that can transfer some or all of its Enhancement bonus as an unnamed bonus to AC.If we cast a CL15 GMW on it, it is now a sword with a +5 Enhancement bonus, that can transfer some or all of its Enhancement bonus as an unnamed bonus to AC.No epic cap is reached - a +5 Defending longsword is only a +6 MPM.Aggeman contends that there is a difference between the Enhancement bonus granted by the Craft Arms and Armor Feat, and the Enhancement bonus granted by the spell - that one works with the Defending property and the other doesn't.This would mean that a +5 Defender with a CL15 GMW cast on it could transfer all its +5 'crafted' bonus to AC, and still retain the +5 enhancement bonus to Attack and Damage from GMW, because the 'spell' bonus is untouched by the Defending property.I disagree, and say that an Enhancement bonus is an Enhancement bonus, and that that same +5 Defender with a CL15 GMW cast on it (giving it a 'second' +5 Enhancement bonus, if you like), would behave just like any other +5 Defender.  A +1 Defender with a CL15 GMW would behave just like any other +5 Defender.  For the duration of the spell, it is a Defending weapon with a +5 Enhancement bonus, some or all of which can be transferred as an unnnamed bonus to AC.That's why my Divine-Shield-monkey Paladin has a shield that's crafted as a +1 Defending Bludgeoning weapon.  When he activates his Divine Shield feat, he can get 18 points of AC out of the shield:  +2 Armor Bonus (Large Shield), +8 Enhancement Bonus to shield's bonus (Divine Shield +8), and +8 unnamed bonus (8 points of 'weapon' Enhancement transferred to AC via Defending property).-Hyp.</blockquote>

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