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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 630623" data-attributes="member: 1465">I may forget something, but...Save DC = 10 + spell level + Int/Wis/Cha mod + SF + GSFwhose max is 23 + mod{max spell level 9, SF+GSF = +4}ST = d20 + base save + Con/Dex/Wis mod + GF/LR/IW + racial bonuswhose max is (on average d20 result = 10 approx) 24 + mod + racial{max base save at 20th is +12, appropriate feat +2, racial usually is either +0 or +2}The above is just an example of a caster which is in fact casting a spell for his SF+GSF school, against a target whose best base save is to be used, so best conditions for both.Ability mod can be very high and buffed up for both the caster and the target in the same way. Of course, this assumes a target who has good bonus in the right ST, otherwise his max is 20+mod+racial, with a -3 on the comparison.I doesn't seem to me that GSF is overpowered. On the long term, a spellcaster who repeatedly cast his favorite spell against different foes, of which of course few may have optimal resistance, GSF may give a great advantage (and against specially weak foes may give 100% chance), but it does not break the game.</blockquote>