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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3328094" data-attributes="member: 4937">There are several problems with SSoS.  The biggest of which is that its sequels are as disappointing as the sequels to the Matrix and they don't even play as well as they read.  Big step up.  Big let down.  Another real problem with the module is almost everything in it forces a saving throw - the poisonous snake, the large spider, the family of centipedes, the yellow mold, the other large spiders, the rot grubs, the green slime, ect.  The writers have mercifully toned down the poison, but even so there is a good chance a character will be removed from play for a lengthy period which detracts from the adventure.  And the rot grubs and yellow mold are inappropriate for an introductory module.  Either could easily wipe out 50% of the players in a novice party of 1st time players.  And the green slime is by my experience marginal.  I've seen novice players - even some supposedly not so novice players with years of experience - simply die unable to figure out what to do to handle a green slime.  SSoS is its own little 'Tomb of Horrors', and while I don't have a problem with that I do think it detracts from the introductory character of the module.  I think its actually a much better low level module for experienced players.  Not that there is anything wrong with that, but it does mean that it has more competition in the category of 'best 1st module for 1st level characters' than you imply.I also have problems with the metagaming assumptions that surround Ned.  It's pretty juvenile, even for its time.Up against SSoS I'd place 'Sunless Citadel' and 'The Whispering Cairn'.  Don't feel bad.  I wasn't consulted either, and I'm so obviously better qualified than you.  But any list that didn't get either of our opinions is clearly not even worth considering.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Why, milestone modules like 'Beyond the Crystal Cave' don't even make it into the list, whereas amatuerish trash like 'Expedition to the Barrier Peaks', 'Queen of the Spiders', 'The Keep on the Borderlands' does.  Imagine them putting modules on the best of list just because millions of players enjoyed them and I didn't (except for B2, and in my defence I was really young at the time and didn't know better)!!!  The nerve of that!</blockquote>

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