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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4990953" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>Emperor Palpatine</p><p>1) Track record: </p><p>Killed his master. Turned some Jedi to the Dark Side and help him set up a Clone Army to be used in an up-coming Civil War. Takes control of a resistance that will allow to instigate the up-coming civil war.</p><p>Installs himself as an important Senate Member, concealing his dark powers from even the most powerful Jedi.</p><p> </p><p>2) Success rate: what do they manage to do in the film/media?</p><p>Well, depends on which episodes we look at. In the first three, he is very succesful.</p><p>- Starts a blockade on the very planet he is supposed to represent.</p><p>- Starts a Galactic Civil War in the process.</p><p>- Takes control over both sides in this war by ensuring that the current Chancellor is voted out of office, replaced by him.</p><p>- Wins the war (how couldn't he - he's on both sides?)</p><p>- Turns the possibly most powerful Jedi to his side.</p><p>- Destroys the Jedi Order.</p><p>- Turns a Republic into an Empire he leads.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>3) How close to winning they get</p><p>He destroys a planet hostile to his empire (though by a proxy). He dismantles the senate. </p><p>Well, the Rebel fleet is suffering heavy losses, and he is killing the penultimate hope of the Jedi. But he still loses when the turned Jedi turns against him and throws him down a shaft.</p><p> </p><p>4) Style: </p><p>Impressive. He is a master of a deception. He plays his role brilliantly, nobody would believe he is the person that is leading both sides.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4990953, member: 710"] Emperor Palpatine 1) Track record: Killed his master. Turned some Jedi to the Dark Side and help him set up a Clone Army to be used in an up-coming Civil War. Takes control of a resistance that will allow to instigate the up-coming civil war. Installs himself as an important Senate Member, concealing his dark powers from even the most powerful Jedi. 2) Success rate: what do they manage to do in the film/media? Well, depends on which episodes we look at. In the first three, he is very succesful. - Starts a blockade on the very planet he is supposed to represent. - Starts a Galactic Civil War in the process. - Takes control over both sides in this war by ensuring that the current Chancellor is voted out of office, replaced by him. - Wins the war (how couldn't he - he's on both sides?) - Turns the possibly most powerful Jedi to his side. - Destroys the Jedi Order. - Turns a Republic into an Empire he leads. 3) How close to winning they get He destroys a planet hostile to his empire (though by a proxy). He dismantles the senate. Well, the Rebel fleet is suffering heavy losses, and he is killing the penultimate hope of the Jedi. But he still loses when the turned Jedi turns against him and throws him down a shaft. 4) Style: Impressive. He is a master of a deception. He plays his role brilliantly, nobody would believe he is the person that is leading both sides. [/QUOTE]
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