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<blockquote data-quote="Psifon" data-source="post: 94196" data-attributes="member: 3171">Re: Re: Re: Re: Hey CreepermanThis is not about what my DM allows, it is about what the rules say.&nbsp; Again, I agree that it SHOULD work the way that you say, but it doesn't.&nbsp; A trip attack is defined in the PHB as being something that your foe can do back to you if you fail.&nbsp; The Knockdown feat allows a free trip attack.&nbsp; Period.&nbsp; There is no special exeption to the return trip, so you DO suffer it.&nbsp; Period.That's just the way the rule was written.&nbsp; There doesn't need to be any eratta, because they didn't make an error.&nbsp; The feat is not useless, you just have to be careful how you use it.&nbsp; It works better on people than on horses for instance, and dragons are right out.&nbsp; On the other hand, if you also take Prone fighting, you won't care if you are tripped in turn as well.&nbsp; So there are ways around this, you just have to spend the feats.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Psifon, post: 94196, member: 3171"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Hey Creeperman[/b] This is not about what my DM allows, it is about what the rules say. Again, I agree that it SHOULD work the way that you say, but it doesn't. A trip attack is defined in the PHB as being something that your foe can do back to you if you fail. The Knockdown feat allows a free trip attack. Period. There is no special exeption to the return trip, so you DO suffer it. Period. That's just the way the rule was written. There doesn't need to be any eratta, because they didn't make an error. The feat is not useless, you just have to be careful how you use it. It works better on people than on horses for instance, and dragons are right out. On the other hand, if you also take Prone fighting, you won't care if you are tripped in turn as well. So there are ways around this, you just have to spend the feats. [/QUOTE]

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