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<blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 2809976" data-attributes="member: 6777"><p>Fair? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> Absolutely!</p><p></p><p>In order to cast a quickened <em>fireball</em>, the wizard would have had to blow a feat on Quicken Spell and be at least 13th level. On top of this, he's either blown another feat on proficiency with the greatsword or sacrificed a level of spellcasting prowess in order to take a level of fighter. He's paid the price and properly strategized. Dang right he gets to cast two spells and then make AoO's. "Fair" isn't the issue; this is basic D&D rules competency.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This isn't a power imbalance, and we're not talking about "readying" a weapon (there is no "ready"; a weapon is either drawn or not, switching-hands FAQ entry or no). We're talking about a PC using a weapon <strong>they've already drawn</strong> while not suffering any conditions that prevent their making AoO's. You're screwing the PC with no support from the rules.</p><p></p><p>On top of this, our hypothetical greatsword-weilding caster is likely never going to be the powerful combatant a dedicated fighter is. Whether he went the feat or the multicalssing route to get greatsword proficiency, he's weaker than his pure spellcasting and fighting companions. You want to penalize them even more? Even though they ahve paid the costs lain out in the rules? What for? To serve your personal concept of "realism"?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Fighters, however, do get to make mutiple attacks six levels before most spellcasters do, and will never be matched by them in the regard, even beyond 20th level.</p><p></p><p><em>Haste</em> was <strong>overpowered for its level</strong>. There's nothing inherrently unbalancing about spellcasters/psionicists getting to cast more than one spell in a round. It depends on <strong>when</strong> in their careers and <strong>how often</strong>. The balancing factor is the cost; w/r/t Quicken Spell, you need to spend a feat, and that feat isn't at all useful for wizards untl 9th level or higher.</p><p></p><p>Swift actions exist becuase it's simpler to define an action as "swift" than "a free action you can only take once in a round." These sorts of actions just happen to be spells and magic-item related. It's got nothing to do with balance; it has to do with rule clarity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buzz, post: 2809976, member: 6777"] Fair? :eek: Absolutely! In order to cast a quickened [i]fireball[/i], the wizard would have had to blow a feat on Quicken Spell and be at least 13th level. On top of this, he's either blown another feat on proficiency with the greatsword or sacrificed a level of spellcasting prowess in order to take a level of fighter. He's paid the price and properly strategized. Dang right he gets to cast two spells and then make AoO's. "Fair" isn't the issue; this is basic D&D rules competency. This isn't a power imbalance, and we're not talking about "readying" a weapon (there is no "ready"; a weapon is either drawn or not, switching-hands FAQ entry or no). We're talking about a PC using a weapon [b]they've already drawn[/b] while not suffering any conditions that prevent their making AoO's. You're screwing the PC with no support from the rules. On top of this, our hypothetical greatsword-weilding caster is likely never going to be the powerful combatant a dedicated fighter is. Whether he went the feat or the multicalssing route to get greatsword proficiency, he's weaker than his pure spellcasting and fighting companions. You want to penalize them even more? Even though they ahve paid the costs lain out in the rules? What for? To serve your personal concept of "realism"? Fighters, however, do get to make mutiple attacks six levels before most spellcasters do, and will never be matched by them in the regard, even beyond 20th level. [i]Haste[/i] was [b]overpowered for its level[/b]. There's nothing inherrently unbalancing about spellcasters/psionicists getting to cast more than one spell in a round. It depends on [b]when[/b] in their careers and [b]how often[/b]. The balancing factor is the cost; w/r/t Quicken Spell, you need to spend a feat, and that feat isn't at all useful for wizards untl 9th level or higher. Swift actions exist becuase it's simpler to define an action as "swift" than "a free action you can only take once in a round." These sorts of actions just happen to be spells and magic-item related. It's got nothing to do with balance; it has to do with rule clarity. [/QUOTE]
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