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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arsene Vulpin" data-source="post: 255609" data-attributes="member: 5932">--> KlausI don't know what Pressman is worth, and what he actually said, but there is a small error,The battle of the Thermopylae is the beginning of the Persian War (480BC), and that's even before the Athenian League was even formed. So you can see that we are very far yet from the "Hellenic Age" which describes the period beginning with Alexander's Macedonian Empire, as a contender to Rome's Power.Thermopyale would be then, right in the Classical Era.This is however, a very minor error, which I couldn't help but remark, just to add my grain of salt. Sorry for the being obnoxious.As for Iron/Bronze use. Spearheads, swords, arrowheads were, since 1200 BC, made of Iron and/or Steel, all over Greece and attending nations.Bronze was, however not forgotten, and it was used, for : Beauty and uncorrodability, to coat over Iron weapons and armours...A bronze weapon or shield would be almost twice as heavy as an Iron shield/weapon/armor, because of : The sheer weight of the Cu-Sn alloy versus the Fe-C alloy, and bulk needed to obtain workable tensile properties.Use of bronze in weaponry was like : apparatus, prestige or so on....For armor however, bronze was castable, wheras iron must be hammered, so, for muscular plates (think of Centurion breastpaltes for romans), It was actually bronze. The same for scaled armor, since bronze scales (byzantine) are quite easier to replace (and recast) than Iron one. As a final approach to Bronze/Iron use, just think that Iron/Steel was never cast (apart from accident) in Europe (albeit it is different in Africa and Far-East) before the 14th-15th century CE, with the invention of the Blast furnace. So think how it is convenient to build an object by cutting ,hammering solid steel, or casting it out of bronze. Then, think that bronze is thought far more beautiful to Greeks than Iron, plus it's non corrodable, yet it is heavy and either very ductile (deformable) or very fragile (breakable). Now use only your common sense, and you'll find by yourself which was used for what, and be right 9 out of 10 times. It is quite easy, those facts known, to find out.</blockquote>

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