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Green-Flame Blade = magic weapon?
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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6789648" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>I think I'd go the opposite direction.</p><p></p><p>Think of two circumstances: the first is GFB as presented.</p><p></p><p>The second is a spell that is the same as GFB, only instead of being cast as an action that includes an attack, it is cast as a bonus action and only targets a target hit by one of your attacks.</p><p></p><p>In the second case, I think we'd be on the same page by saying that the attack made during the turn is non-magical. The spell you cast is magical, but the attack that allows it isn't. </p><p></p><p>In the first case, contrawise, the attack is allowed by the spell. That attack is one of the spell's effects, not a separate effect. The attack, then, is a spell effect, just as a fireball or a conjured creature is a spell effect. If GFB was counterspelled, you wouldn't make the attack. If GFB was used in an area of antimagic, you wouldn't make the attack. The attack is created by the spell. </p><p></p><p>This makes the attack magical, in my mind, even if it's not a spell attack. The attack is one of the effects of casting a spell, and casting a spell is magical, so the attack is magical. If the designers wanted the attack to be non-magical, they would've made casting the spell a bonus action or a reaction or somesuch, and not worried about including the attack as one of the effects of the spell. </p><p></p><p>I don't imagine it's ultimately a HUGE deal, but I believe the intent is for a character using a spell to be considered "magical," even if that spell involves a melee attack with a normal weapon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6789648, member: 2067"] I think I'd go the opposite direction. Think of two circumstances: the first is GFB as presented. The second is a spell that is the same as GFB, only instead of being cast as an action that includes an attack, it is cast as a bonus action and only targets a target hit by one of your attacks. In the second case, I think we'd be on the same page by saying that the attack made during the turn is non-magical. The spell you cast is magical, but the attack that allows it isn't. In the first case, contrawise, the attack is allowed by the spell. That attack is one of the spell's effects, not a separate effect. The attack, then, is a spell effect, just as a fireball or a conjured creature is a spell effect. If GFB was counterspelled, you wouldn't make the attack. If GFB was used in an area of antimagic, you wouldn't make the attack. The attack is created by the spell. This makes the attack magical, in my mind, even if it's not a spell attack. The attack is one of the effects of casting a spell, and casting a spell is magical, so the attack is magical. If the designers wanted the attack to be non-magical, they would've made casting the spell a bonus action or a reaction or somesuch, and not worried about including the attack as one of the effects of the spell. I don't imagine it's ultimately a HUGE deal, but I believe the intent is for a character using a spell to be considered "magical," even if that spell involves a melee attack with a normal weapon. [/QUOTE]
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