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<blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6792606" data-attributes="member: 6801315">The normal effects of the melee weapon attack could mean more or less than what you're deciding to limit it to.&nbsp; If the target has hex and you make the attack, you would get bonus damage from hex for example.&nbsp; That would then be part of &quot;the normal effects of the attack&quot;.&nbsp; Stating specific beats general doesn't mean anything, we're not discussing specific beats general.&nbsp; The text from the spell does not specifically circumvent a general rule.&nbsp; Which one do you think it does?I'm not getting into a grammatical debate, it's a fruitless venture and most people who resort to this form of debate aren't worth the time.Yes, you do have the right to make an interpretation like everyone else.&nbsp; But you didn't just make an interpretation, you claimed that RAW and RAI agreed with it.&nbsp; RAW does not, you can't provide rules text that directly agrees with your claim.&nbsp; RAI does not, because we haven't gotten an official response from the devs.&nbsp; Simply bringing up buzz words like this doesn't make you right...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Noctem, post: 6792606, member: 6801315"] The normal effects of the melee weapon attack could mean more or less than what you're deciding to limit it to. If the target has hex and you make the attack, you would get bonus damage from hex for example. That would then be part of "the normal effects of the attack". Stating specific beats general doesn't mean anything, we're not discussing specific beats general. The text from the spell does not specifically circumvent a general rule. Which one do you think it does? I'm not getting into a grammatical debate, it's a fruitless venture and most people who resort to this form of debate aren't worth the time. Yes, you do have the right to make an interpretation like everyone else. But you didn't just make an interpretation, you claimed that RAW and RAI agreed with it. RAW does not, you can't provide rules text that directly agrees with your claim. RAI does not, because we haven't gotten an official response from the devs. Simply bringing up buzz words like this doesn't make you right... [/QUOTE]

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