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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6793863" data-attributes="member: 16814">Yes, it says that you get a bonus action, that you can only use to make two attacks, if you choose to take it.  Haste says that you get an action, and you have many choices for it, one of which is an attack.  It seems that both spells grant actions (one a bonus one) and both granted actions can be used to attack.  Yet, in one, you say that the granted attacks are directly due to the spell, when casting the spell doesn't give you attacks, it gives you a bonus action option, which you can use to make attacks.  In the other, you say that the spell doesn't grant you an attack, when casting the spell gives you an action, which you can use to make attacks.  Both spells do not directly provide attacks, they provide action options that can be used to make attacks.  But you treat them differently.  Why?  Also, I'll thank you to not substitute you theory of OAs caused by spell granted attacks being granted by the spell as well because -- not really sure why you said that.  I've already debunked that by pointing out that the OA wouldn't be granted by the spell so the chain immediately breaks.  Please don't roll that back out as if it has anything to do with my argument.  I'm not making that argument, and I'm not making an argument that even implies that.  I'm just asking you to explain what the difference is between granting a bonus action used to make attacks and granting an action that is then used to make an attack.</blockquote>

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