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<blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 8070023" data-attributes="member: 944">I feel this way too. Back in the 70's and 80's when this was a big thing, management sims were not common and if you wanted that experience D&amp;D and Traveller both provided good robust&nbsp; rule sets. Otherwise its was Hammurabi or&nbsp; Santa Paravia en Fiumaccio if you were lucky enough to have a computer. Now there are plenty of sims and while action RPG's are out there, computers do the sims better but nothing beats the wild action and inventiveness of table top play at high levels.&nbsp;Vin Diesel's-comment&nbsp; about &quot;if you have any characters over eight level you are probably cheating&quot; isn't true but high level play is pretty rare and while options for management are nice, I'd rather go squash Tiamat or kick a Lich&nbsp; in the teeth than run papers and paychecks, Greyhawk edition and I think many gamers feel this way too For those that do not Sword Chronicle offers some super nice options which is great</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ace, post: 8070023, member: 944"] I feel this way too. Back in the 70's and 80's when this was a big thing, management sims were not common and if you wanted that experience D&D and Traveller both provided good robust rule sets. Otherwise its was Hammurabi or Santa Paravia en Fiumaccio if you were lucky enough to have a computer. Now there are plenty of sims and while action RPG's are out there, computers do the sims better but nothing beats the wild action and inventiveness of table top play at high levels. Vin Diesel's-comment about "if you have any characters over eight level you are probably cheating" isn't true but high level play is pretty rare and while options for management are nice, I'd rather go squash Tiamat or kick a Lich in the teeth than run papers and paychecks, Greyhawk edition and I think many gamers feel this way too For those that do not Sword Chronicle offers some super nice options which is great [/QUOTE]

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