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Greg Tito On Leaving WotC: 'It feels good to do something that doesn't just line the pockets of *****'
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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9449254" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>I don't like people telling me what I'm saying or why I'm saying it when I'm sitting here telling them what I'm saying and why I'm saying it.</p><p></p><p>Between the two of us, I know my reasoning better than you do, and I would appreciate you not engaging in ad hominem by attacking my 'Biases' rather than listening to my statements.</p><p></p><p>Companies lay off employees for a lot of reasons, it's true. Which is why WotC laid off 800 employees in Spring/Summer 2023. And then laid off the majority of their remaining employees in Winter of the same year.</p><p></p><p>WotC had between 1,000 and 2,000 employees in 2020. In 2023 they fired 1,900, total. More than half of those firings happened in Q4.</p><p></p><p>Your dad's small business is a nice anecdote, but it doesn't compare to firing most of the remaining staff right before Christmas while talking about "Headwinds".</p><p></p><p>And from the preponderance of evidence of massive "Q4 Layoffs" at large corporations being driven primarily by profit-motives of shareholders, which we can verify with even a modicum of reading... I think it's safe to conclude that firing most of the staff wasn't a "Hard decision about the future of WotC" when it posted a banner year with lots of profits.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://kidscreen.com/2024/02/13/hasbros-full-year-revenue-for-2023-was-down-by-15/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Hasbro was down year to year by 15% in Q4 2023. WotC itself had made a 10% growth over the previous year. And they laid off 1,900 people. Because of "Headwinds".</p><p></p><p>That's not bias. That's looking at the context and going "Yup. Shareholders have gutted WotC to line their pockets and this dude is complaining about shareholders lining their pockets. These two things? Probably related."</p><p></p><p>Did I go to far in saying he was treated badly? Maybe. But people generally don't badmouth their former employers when they -aren't- treated badly. And since he was in communications during a year when WotC and Hasbro pulled SO MUCH TERRIBLE STUFF and it was his job to be involved in dealing with that and the backlash of it?</p><p></p><p>I think he was worked harder than he should've been to line shareholders' pockets. They went off the deep end with their cuts and control to their employees and customers, and left people like him to take the brunt of the response.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 9449254, member: 6796468"] I don't like people telling me what I'm saying or why I'm saying it when I'm sitting here telling them what I'm saying and why I'm saying it. Between the two of us, I know my reasoning better than you do, and I would appreciate you not engaging in ad hominem by attacking my 'Biases' rather than listening to my statements. Companies lay off employees for a lot of reasons, it's true. Which is why WotC laid off 800 employees in Spring/Summer 2023. And then laid off the majority of their remaining employees in Winter of the same year. WotC had between 1,000 and 2,000 employees in 2020. In 2023 they fired 1,900, total. More than half of those firings happened in Q4. Your dad's small business is a nice anecdote, but it doesn't compare to firing most of the remaining staff right before Christmas while talking about "Headwinds". And from the preponderance of evidence of massive "Q4 Layoffs" at large corporations being driven primarily by profit-motives of shareholders, which we can verify with even a modicum of reading... I think it's safe to conclude that firing most of the staff wasn't a "Hard decision about the future of WotC" when it posted a banner year with lots of profits. [URL unfurl="true"]https://kidscreen.com/2024/02/13/hasbros-full-year-revenue-for-2023-was-down-by-15/[/URL] Hasbro was down year to year by 15% in Q4 2023. WotC itself had made a 10% growth over the previous year. And they laid off 1,900 people. Because of "Headwinds". That's not bias. That's looking at the context and going "Yup. Shareholders have gutted WotC to line their pockets and this dude is complaining about shareholders lining their pockets. These two things? Probably related." Did I go to far in saying he was treated badly? Maybe. But people generally don't badmouth their former employers when they -aren't- treated badly. And since he was in communications during a year when WotC and Hasbro pulled SO MUCH TERRIBLE STUFF and it was his job to be involved in dealing with that and the backlash of it? I think he was worked harder than he should've been to line shareholders' pockets. They went off the deep end with their cuts and control to their employees and customers, and left people like him to take the brunt of the response. [/QUOTE]
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