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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9456240" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>There were two videos that I know of that Dan discussed this. As far as I know, these are the only statements Dan made on this. I copied the transcripts to do fact checking, police are not mentioned. He does state in the second video that they [edit: Pinkertons] were being very forceful until he put his foot down. After that they were "<em>kind of chill out after they realized we were not criminals</em>"</p><p></p><p>I'm not arguing about anything, just posting what Dan actually stated. In any case, the unedited text generated from the videos. Okay, mostly unedited. So many "ums" it was bugging me.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD9HRueI6Js&ab_channel=oldschoolmtg posted April 22, 2023"]</p><p>welcome back cardboard workers how's</p><p>everybody out there doing today it's</p><p>been a crazy month uh it was a really</p><p>crazy morning.</p><p></p><p>I got up and was doing some videos</p><p>recording some videos and I did a</p><p>recorded a regular March of the machine</p><p>collector's box opening before the</p><p>events unraveled of the morning so that</p><p>may be a little confusing what I'm</p><p>saying in that video so take that with a</p><p>grain of salt.</p><p></p><p>I I right after I got done with the</p><p>video dogs are barking because</p><p>Somebody's knocking at the door uh I</p><p>come out and my wife's answering the</p><p>door and it was the pinkertons uh if</p><p>you're not familiar with the pinkertons</p><p>check them out uh yeah it's like kind of</p><p>a big deal they're uh they're the</p><p>largest private security firm in like</p><p>the world I think</p><p></p><p>the big heavy hitter guys anyway I think</p><p>I'm knocking on the door to recover the</p><p>stolen product from which is the coast</p><p>which was the margin machine aftermath</p><p>stuff it wasn't stolen product just to</p><p>clear the record as far as I know</p><p>nothing was stolen</p><p></p><p>what I believe happened was the names</p><p>are too similar March of the machine</p><p>merge the machine aftermath</p><p>somebody screwed up and sent out the</p><p>wrong cases to the gentleman that I bought the the</p><p>boxes off of because when he sold me the</p><p>stuff he said he saw me March of the</p><p>machine collector's boxes not aftermath uh he's</p><p>not a magic guy he's a more Pokemon</p><p>Yu-Gi-Oh uh guy I believe uh he just</p><p>does magic as because it's all you know</p><p>all the card games it just does them all</p><p>but he didn't even know what aftermath</p><p>really was I don't think</p><p></p><p>so I don't think he stole anything I</p><p>think it was just he got the cases</p><p>thinking they were March the machine</p><p>some of me thinking they were March the</p><p>machine I bought them thinking they were</p><p>March of the machine I didn't know until</p><p>after I give him the money and opened</p><p>the box to look at the the boxes inside</p><p>that they were aftermath so because they</p><p>still just like say March of the machine</p><p>on the outside of the boxes too so I</p><p>don't know um I don't want to get too</p><p>much into the story the videos are taken</p><p>down now</p><p></p><p>the pinkertons actually gave me the</p><p>number to somebody at Wizards of the</p><p>Coast that was asking them to have me</p><p>call them so I did I called Wizards the</p><p>coast and talked to a gentleman there it</p><p>was very nice and very apologetic about</p><p>making my wife cry first thing in the</p><p>morning by sending these uh heavy duty</p><p>lawmen I come collect stuff and talk</p><p>about stolen products and uh jail time</p><p>and all this other stuff but uh they</p><p>they don't believe that we stole</p><p>anything which we didn't and they don't</p><p>believe that I don't know if they</p><p>believe anybody really stole anything or</p><p>if it was just a an accident or whatever</p><p>but they needed the product so they</p><p>could try and they wanted the product</p><p>back so they could try and figure out</p><p>where the the hole was so they can plug</p><p>the hole is exactly what his words were</p><p>to me and he did apologize and they know</p><p>that they they took a lot of stuff that</p><p>we had paid a lot of money for and he</p><p>actually said they are gonna try and</p><p>compensate us a little by sending us</p><p>some other product and was asking me</p><p>kind of what product I liked and whatnot</p><p>so he seemed very nice</p><p></p><p>which was the coaches not being very</p><p>they're not being rude about it or</p><p>anything they were being very</p><p>and apologizing that they had to go to</p><p>drastic means by son the pinkertons on</p><p>my front door but</p><p></p><p>they are uh they are like I said asking</p><p>if they can send me some product to make</p><p>up for the loss of money so we'll see</p><p>what happens with that I'll I'll let you</p><p>guys know what happened with it um but</p><p>they did seem very nice and very laid</p><p>back about the whole thing and they just</p><p>wanted the product back so they could</p><p>try and figure out where the mistake</p><p>happened or if somebody actually did</p><p>like you know steal a box off the back of a truck or</p><p>something I don't know but I really</p><p>don't think that's what happened I think</p><p>it's just that the names were too</p><p>similar March of the machine marched the</p><p>machine aftermath somebody got them mixed up somewhere</p><p>along the line and sent out the wrong</p><p>boxes to the gentleman that I bought</p><p>from and he just wasn't in the know with</p><p>magic enough to know that it was the</p><p>wrong set so I believe that's really</p><p>what happened along the way</p><p></p><p>I did take the videos down as you've</p><p>seen and anybody who's used my footage</p><p>uh you'll probably want to take that</p><p>down uh it isn't they are saying it is</p><p>in some sort of copyright infringement</p><p>thing uh so if you've used my footage or got</p><p>screenshots with my videos or anything</p><p>you probably want to remove that from</p><p>your pages or from your sites they did</p><p>ask me to ask everybody to take that</p><p>down nobody asked my permission to use</p><p>my footage or I probably would have told</p><p>them you may not want to you know I was</p><p>uh you know uploading this stuff because</p><p>I had it in my hands but you know I I</p><p>really feel that there was no wrongdoing</p><p>on my behalf or even the gentleman</p><p>perhaps that I got over them I could be</p><p>wrong but I really don't think it was</p><p>stolen I think it was just a mistake</p><p>somewhere along the line</p><p></p><p>I no longer have the product the</p><p>pinkertons took everything to take back</p><p>to WotC so they now are in possession</p><p>of all the product they counted every</p><p>single card and every single booster</p><p>pack I don't even have any of the</p><p>wrappers or anything like that left they</p><p>took the empty boxes the empty packs</p><p>everything so I don't even have a token</p><p>to show for my for my efforts there but</p><p>um it has been a crazy ride the last few</p><p>days the Channel's blowing up quite a</p><p>bit I got I doubled my subscribers so</p><p>welcome everybody new</p><p></p><p>we'll see it'll probably be a little</p><p>less drama going on in the future I hope</p><p>uh but I love the game I love the cards</p><p>and I just I really like opening boxes and seeing</p><p>the cards and it was kind of being a</p><p>really old school because I started the</p><p>day revise came out it was really nice</p><p>to just open boxes and not know what it</p><p>was going to be in there like it was in</p><p>the old days before the internet before</p><p>YouTube we didn't have that stuff in</p><p>93-94 when the game came out we just</p><p>opened boxes and like oh look at this</p><p>new card oh look at that new card and</p><p>that was really fun I really missed</p><p>those days so it was fun to get to</p><p>relive that and actually see a new set</p><p>and not know everything about it before</p><p>it came out I know I spoiled it for</p><p>everybody else but I I really enjoyed</p><p>doing that anyways I'm trying to keep</p><p>the video short I I don't know what I've</p><p>gone over what I haven't gone over could</p><p>I recorded this video a few times</p><p>obviously because it's hard dick and</p><p>know what to say and what not to say in</p><p>this type of situation and I'm still</p><p>kind of a little flustered about</p><p>everything that happened this morning so</p><p>uh thank you guys so much for the views</p><p>and welcome new subscribers and</p><p>hopefully uh in the future things will</p><p>go a little smoother</p><p>um I don't I've never had to take a</p><p>video down before and I have released</p><p>stuff pretty early before but this one</p><p>obviously there's some extenuating</p><p>circumstances I'll let you know if</p><p>anything else arises out of that</p><p>um but</p><p></p><p>I don't think anybody did anything wrong</p><p>and I don't think Wizards of the Coast</p><p>really feels that either uh they just</p><p>they're obviously a mistake was made</p><p>somewhere along the line and they're</p><p>trying to figure out where it was as far</p><p>as I know so anyways thank you guys so</p><p>much for watching and we'll see you in</p><p>the next one uh talk to you later bye</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>The second video where he talks about this where he's reacting to comments.</p><p>[SPOILER="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjD5KeqZoEE&ab_channel=oldschoolmtg starting at around 5:50 through 7:35 or so"]</p><p>everybody that's uh commenting how oh</p><p>what a totally kick rocks or whatever</p><p>I'm a big history buff and I am very</p><p>very familiar with the history of the</p><p>pinkertons so the second they said</p><p>Pinkerton I kind of my jaw hit the</p><p>ground I was like really I guess they</p><p>were more mad than I thought they would</p><p>be invasion of Fiora</p><p>it was intimidating it was a little a</p><p>little scary because my wife was also a</p><p>history buff and knows about the</p><p>pinkertons and some of the uh</p><p>uh actions they are taken in the past</p><p>uh I won't use the word atrocities even</p><p>though that's the first thing that came</p><p>to my mind anyways um I won't talk too</p><p>much about it a totally Prime Will</p><p>Conquer this new flip card there</p><p>so you know we immediately knew that</p><p>it was pretty serious dudes we were</p><p>dealing with and they were very</p><p>aggressive at the beginning</p><p>they did try and kind of force their way</p><p>in a little bit they did not actually</p><p>force their way in we didn't put a stop</p><p>to that but they were being very forceful at the</p><p>beginning and it was very intimidating I did put my</p><p>foot down and demanded some respect in my house</p><p>and told me he needed to take it back a</p><p>notch and he did so they did kind of chill out after they</p><p>realized they were not criminals we were</p><p>just a couple and I'm just a YouTuber opening</p><p>product</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9456240, member: 6801845"] There were two videos that I know of that Dan discussed this. As far as I know, these are the only statements Dan made on this. I copied the transcripts to do fact checking, police are not mentioned. He does state in the second video that they [edit: Pinkertons] were being very forceful until he put his foot down. After that they were "[I]kind of chill out after they realized we were not criminals[/I]" I'm not arguing about anything, just posting what Dan actually stated. In any case, the unedited text generated from the videos. Okay, mostly unedited. So many "ums" it was bugging me. [SPOILER="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD9HRueI6Js&ab_channel=oldschoolmtg posted April 22, 2023"] welcome back cardboard workers how's everybody out there doing today it's been a crazy month uh it was a really crazy morning. I got up and was doing some videos recording some videos and I did a recorded a regular March of the machine collector's box opening before the events unraveled of the morning so that may be a little confusing what I'm saying in that video so take that with a grain of salt. I I right after I got done with the video dogs are barking because Somebody's knocking at the door uh I come out and my wife's answering the door and it was the pinkertons uh if you're not familiar with the pinkertons check them out uh yeah it's like kind of a big deal they're uh they're the largest private security firm in like the world I think the big heavy hitter guys anyway I think I'm knocking on the door to recover the stolen product from which is the coast which was the margin machine aftermath stuff it wasn't stolen product just to clear the record as far as I know nothing was stolen what I believe happened was the names are too similar March of the machine merge the machine aftermath somebody screwed up and sent out the wrong cases to the gentleman that I bought the the boxes off of because when he sold me the stuff he said he saw me March of the machine collector's boxes not aftermath uh he's not a magic guy he's a more Pokemon Yu-Gi-Oh uh guy I believe uh he just does magic as because it's all you know all the card games it just does them all but he didn't even know what aftermath really was I don't think so I don't think he stole anything I think it was just he got the cases thinking they were March the machine some of me thinking they were March the machine I bought them thinking they were March of the machine I didn't know until after I give him the money and opened the box to look at the the boxes inside that they were aftermath so because they still just like say March of the machine on the outside of the boxes too so I don't know um I don't want to get too much into the story the videos are taken down now the pinkertons actually gave me the number to somebody at Wizards of the Coast that was asking them to have me call them so I did I called Wizards the coast and talked to a gentleman there it was very nice and very apologetic about making my wife cry first thing in the morning by sending these uh heavy duty lawmen I come collect stuff and talk about stolen products and uh jail time and all this other stuff but uh they they don't believe that we stole anything which we didn't and they don't believe that I don't know if they believe anybody really stole anything or if it was just a an accident or whatever but they needed the product so they could try and they wanted the product back so they could try and figure out where the the hole was so they can plug the hole is exactly what his words were to me and he did apologize and they know that they they took a lot of stuff that we had paid a lot of money for and he actually said they are gonna try and compensate us a little by sending us some other product and was asking me kind of what product I liked and whatnot so he seemed very nice which was the coaches not being very they're not being rude about it or anything they were being very and apologizing that they had to go to drastic means by son the pinkertons on my front door but they are uh they are like I said asking if they can send me some product to make up for the loss of money so we'll see what happens with that I'll I'll let you guys know what happened with it um but they did seem very nice and very laid back about the whole thing and they just wanted the product back so they could try and figure out where the mistake happened or if somebody actually did like you know steal a box off the back of a truck or something I don't know but I really don't think that's what happened I think it's just that the names were too similar March of the machine marched the machine aftermath somebody got them mixed up somewhere along the line and sent out the wrong boxes to the gentleman that I bought from and he just wasn't in the know with magic enough to know that it was the wrong set so I believe that's really what happened along the way I did take the videos down as you've seen and anybody who's used my footage uh you'll probably want to take that down uh it isn't they are saying it is in some sort of copyright infringement thing uh so if you've used my footage or got screenshots with my videos or anything you probably want to remove that from your pages or from your sites they did ask me to ask everybody to take that down nobody asked my permission to use my footage or I probably would have told them you may not want to you know I was uh you know uploading this stuff because I had it in my hands but you know I I really feel that there was no wrongdoing on my behalf or even the gentleman perhaps that I got over them I could be wrong but I really don't think it was stolen I think it was just a mistake somewhere along the line I no longer have the product the pinkertons took everything to take back to WotC so they now are in possession of all the product they counted every single card and every single booster pack I don't even have any of the wrappers or anything like that left they took the empty boxes the empty packs everything so I don't even have a token to show for my for my efforts there but um it has been a crazy ride the last few days the Channel's blowing up quite a bit I got I doubled my subscribers so welcome everybody new we'll see it'll probably be a little less drama going on in the future I hope uh but I love the game I love the cards and I just I really like opening boxes and seeing the cards and it was kind of being a really old school because I started the day revise came out it was really nice to just open boxes and not know what it was going to be in there like it was in the old days before the internet before YouTube we didn't have that stuff in 93-94 when the game came out we just opened boxes and like oh look at this new card oh look at that new card and that was really fun I really missed those days so it was fun to get to relive that and actually see a new set and not know everything about it before it came out I know I spoiled it for everybody else but I I really enjoyed doing that anyways I'm trying to keep the video short I I don't know what I've gone over what I haven't gone over could I recorded this video a few times obviously because it's hard dick and know what to say and what not to say in this type of situation and I'm still kind of a little flustered about everything that happened this morning so uh thank you guys so much for the views and welcome new subscribers and hopefully uh in the future things will go a little smoother um I don't I've never had to take a video down before and I have released stuff pretty early before but this one obviously there's some extenuating circumstances I'll let you know if anything else arises out of that um but I don't think anybody did anything wrong and I don't think Wizards of the Coast really feels that either uh they just they're obviously a mistake was made somewhere along the line and they're trying to figure out where it was as far as I know so anyways thank you guys so much for watching and we'll see you in the next one uh talk to you later bye [/SPOILER] The second video where he talks about this where he's reacting to comments. [SPOILER="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjD5KeqZoEE&ab_channel=oldschoolmtg starting at around 5:50 through 7:35 or so"] everybody that's uh commenting how oh what a totally kick rocks or whatever I'm a big history buff and I am very very familiar with the history of the pinkertons so the second they said Pinkerton I kind of my jaw hit the ground I was like really I guess they were more mad than I thought they would be invasion of Fiora it was intimidating it was a little a little scary because my wife was also a history buff and knows about the pinkertons and some of the uh uh actions they are taken in the past uh I won't use the word atrocities even though that's the first thing that came to my mind anyways um I won't talk too much about it a totally Prime Will Conquer this new flip card there so you know we immediately knew that it was pretty serious dudes we were dealing with and they were very aggressive at the beginning they did try and kind of force their way in a little bit they did not actually force their way in we didn't put a stop to that but they were being very forceful at the beginning and it was very intimidating I did put my foot down and demanded some respect in my house and told me he needed to take it back a notch and he did so they did kind of chill out after they realized they were not criminals we were just a couple and I'm just a YouTuber opening product [/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]
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