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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9503040" data-attributes="member: 58172">Definitely, yes.At the same time, when I compare the geographies, I read Nyr Dyv as a merging of the other nearby Great Lakes as well, along with Superior. The only Lake missing is Ontario. I imagine it being there, in some sense, not necessarily as a body of water. Even a notable river can work. As the C&amp;C Great Kingdom map evolved into both the Greyhawk campaign and the Blackmoor campaign, what where originally minimalist sketches of rivers, were rendered as significant water bodies in later maps.At the time, they were modeling reallife maps, mostly to have a map that felt &quot;realistic&quot; and &quot;plausible&quot;. Even their sketches were looking at actual atlases. Albeit, there were many distortions.Like the 1996 Oerth map has an East Oerik that has its coast roughly follow the coastline from Poland all the way to Spain ... except France is around the size of the continent of Australia.Now that I have a clearer idea of where the latitudes are, and what the plausible weather patterns are, it is difficult to reconcile some of the D&amp;D narratives.Heh, I meant the map will be collectible. Players chew thru maps. The good maps get much love and nostalgia. And the 2024 Greyhawk map is beautiful in its own right. A couple decades from now, a mint map will be valuable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9503040, member: 58172"] Definitely, yes. At the same time, when I compare the geographies, I read Nyr Dyv as a merging of the other nearby Great Lakes as well, along with Superior. The only Lake missing is Ontario. I imagine it being there, in some sense, not necessarily as a body of water. Even a notable river can work. As the C&C Great Kingdom map evolved into both the Greyhawk campaign and the Blackmoor campaign, what where originally minimalist sketches of rivers, were rendered as significant water bodies in later maps. At the time, they were modeling reallife maps, mostly to have a map that felt "realistic" and "plausible". Even their sketches were looking at actual atlases. Albeit, there were many distortions. Like the 1996 Oerth map has an East Oerik that has its coast roughly follow the coastline from Poland all the way to Spain ... except France is around the size of the continent of Australia. Now that I have a clearer idea of where the latitudes are, and what the plausible weather patterns are, it is difficult to reconcile some of the D&D narratives. Heh, I meant the map will be collectible. Players chew thru maps. The good maps get much love and nostalgia. And the 2024 Greyhawk map is beautiful in its own right. A couple decades from now, a mint map will be valuable. [/QUOTE]

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