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Greyhawk 2024: comparing Oerth and Earth
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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9504352" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>Both the 1980 and 2024 Greyhawk map cut off at 55° latitude as its farthest North.</p><p></p><p>For comparison, the Nordic cities of Oslo, Stockholm, and Helsinki are roughly 60° latitude. Reykjavík is roughly 65° latitude. Even København (Copenhagen) is off the edge of the map at 55°44'.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the Indigenous peoples of Alaska, Yukon, Northwest, and Nunavut are absent. Plus the swaths of peoples across Northern Asia.</p><p></p><p>The Greyhawk map cannot adequately represent northern cultures.</p><p></p><p>Even trying to squeeze inspiration from them into a small available area, results in an amalgam that is little more than appropriation and misrepresentation.</p><p></p><p>The Nordic peoples are a block. They have been evolving together for thousands of years, and in areas where they overlap, they intermarry. There is profound mutual influence and entanglement. One cannot have Norse without Sámi or Finlander, and so on.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Other points of reference are. The experience of the midnight sun starts at approximately 65°, specifically about 66°34' latitude and namely the "Arctic Circle". The polar icecaps are roughly around 75° but can range higher or lower depending on the regional weather pattern factors, and the frozen waters extend southward during winter.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Any D&D campaign that has northerly settings in mind, must have an understanding of what is going on northward beyond the map.</p><p></p><p>Even the Blackmoor setting which is on the map near the north mentions groups that are beyond the map, thus need a sense of who and where is far north.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9504352, member: 58172"] Both the 1980 and 2024 Greyhawk map cut off at 55° latitude as its farthest North. For comparison, the Nordic cities of Oslo, Stockholm, and Helsinki are roughly 60° latitude. Reykjavík is roughly 65° latitude. Even København (Copenhagen) is off the edge of the map at 55°44'. Meanwhile the Indigenous peoples of Alaska, Yukon, Northwest, and Nunavut are absent. Plus the swaths of peoples across Northern Asia. The Greyhawk map cannot adequately represent northern cultures. Even trying to squeeze inspiration from them into a small available area, results in an amalgam that is little more than appropriation and misrepresentation. The Nordic peoples are a block. They have been evolving together for thousands of years, and in areas where they overlap, they intermarry. There is profound mutual influence and entanglement. One cannot have Norse without Sámi or Finlander, and so on. Other points of reference are. The experience of the midnight sun starts at approximately 65°, specifically about 66°34' latitude and namely the "Arctic Circle". The polar icecaps are roughly around 75° but can range higher or lower depending on the regional weather pattern factors, and the frozen waters extend southward during winter. Any D&D campaign that has northerly settings in mind, must have an understanding of what is going on northward beyond the map. Even the Blackmoor setting which is on the map near the north mentions groups that are beyond the map, thus need a sense of who and where is far north. [/QUOTE]
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