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Greyhawk 2024: comparing Oerth and Earth
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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9504406" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>It is preferable for reallife cultures to be able to see themselves within the worlds of D&D.</p><p></p><p>It is problematic to have non-insiders depict inspirations from a reallife culture. But it is probably worse to erase reallife cultures from an earthlike world.</p><p></p><p>All cultures are inspired directly and indirectly from reallife cultures. Flan are portrayed with imagery and beliefs from the Indigenous of North America, and compare other descriptions of the Indigenous in Central America (Amedio) and South America (Hepmona). The fantasy formula is to take something familiar from reallife and combine it with a feature that is unfamiliar. All the "familiar" recognizable features are reallife. Sensitivity is always necessary when describing human (and humanoid) cultures.</p><p></p><p>The government systems and cultures and religious assumptions of Greyhawk typically derive from England and parts of Continental Europe, whence European Americans, to a point where one can almost say the Common language and English are identical. There are also inspirations from other cultures, but they tend to be peripheral, and their depictions controversial.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Is there an official source for these dinosaurs?</p><p></p><p>The closest description that I can find is from the 1980 Greyhawk by Gygax, for the Land of Black Ice, which is a "highland" of mountains or plateaus or rolling hills.</p><p></p><p>"</p><p>Stranger still, they are said to tell of a warmer land beyond the ice, where the sun never sets and the jungles abound. Regardless of such prevarications, the area [of the Black Ice] is mysterious indeed.</p><p></p><p>"</p><p></p><p>Note, the reports of these "jungles" are called a falsehood ("prevarication").</p><p></p><p>In any case, the places where "the sun never sets" are the definition of the Arctic Circle, starting from 66°44' latitude and northward. Things start to get comparitively chilly from here, but there are still many humans who live at these latitudes.</p><p></p><p>The polar icecap is much farther north.</p><p></p><p>These "warmer lands" at the far north are normal, for an earthlike planet with earthlike latitudes and climates. Apparently, the Black Ice is magically colder, beyond what one expects for the latitude. But the areas outside of this Black Ice area are what one might expect for the given latitude.</p><p></p><p>The map of Oerth calls these "warmer lands" the continent of Hyperborea, and again the warmth suggests the various latitudes of Hyperborea are highly populated by humans.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9504406, member: 58172"] It is preferable for reallife cultures to be able to see themselves within the worlds of D&D. It is problematic to have non-insiders depict inspirations from a reallife culture. But it is probably worse to erase reallife cultures from an earthlike world. All cultures are inspired directly and indirectly from reallife cultures. Flan are portrayed with imagery and beliefs from the Indigenous of North America, and compare other descriptions of the Indigenous in Central America (Amedio) and South America (Hepmona). The fantasy formula is to take something familiar from reallife and combine it with a feature that is unfamiliar. All the "familiar" recognizable features are reallife. Sensitivity is always necessary when describing human (and humanoid) cultures. The government systems and cultures and religious assumptions of Greyhawk typically derive from England and parts of Continental Europe, whence European Americans, to a point where one can almost say the Common language and English are identical. There are also inspirations from other cultures, but they tend to be peripheral, and their depictions controversial. Is there an official source for these dinosaurs? The closest description that I can find is from the 1980 Greyhawk by Gygax, for the Land of Black Ice, which is a "highland" of mountains or plateaus or rolling hills. " Stranger still, they are said to tell of a warmer land beyond the ice, where the sun never sets and the jungles abound. Regardless of such prevarications, the area [of the Black Ice] is mysterious indeed. " Note, the reports of these "jungles" are called a falsehood ("prevarication"). In any case, the places where "the sun never sets" are the definition of the Arctic Circle, starting from 66°44' latitude and northward. Things start to get comparitively chilly from here, but there are still many humans who live at these latitudes. The polar icecap is much farther north. These "warmer lands" at the far north are normal, for an earthlike planet with earthlike latitudes and climates. Apparently, the Black Ice is magically colder, beyond what one expects for the latitude. But the areas outside of this Black Ice area are what one might expect for the given latitude. The map of Oerth calls these "warmer lands" the continent of Hyperborea, and again the warmth suggests the various latitudes of Hyperborea are highly populated by humans. [/QUOTE]
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