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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9512418" data-attributes="member: 7034611">there is no civilization like the Egyptians in that part of the world without the Nile, but the Nile is not directly responsible for the details of that civilization.There would not have been a Babylon without the Euphrates either. People settle where they have fresh water and fertile land, surprise... Saying the Egyptians could only ever have arisen like that in Egypt due to the features of the land is a weird take.That along their millennia of history they had contact with and were influenced by their neighbors is certainly true, but a lot of Egyptian customs radiated out and survived conquest, so with different neighbors chances are there would still be much that remains recognizable (unless the different neighbor managed to wipe them off the map).This ‘region determines the civilization in it down to the details’ idea feels pretty flawed to me. I don’t think you can say if the people founding Egypt had settled at the Euphrates instead, their civilization would have turned into Babylon and vice versa.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9512418, member: 7034611"] there is no civilization like the Egyptians in that part of the world without the Nile, but the Nile is not directly responsible for the details of that civilization. There would not have been a Babylon without the Euphrates either. People settle where they have fresh water and fertile land, surprise... Saying the Egyptians could only ever have arisen like that in Egypt due to the features of the land is a weird take. That along their millennia of history they had contact with and were influenced by their neighbors is certainly true, but a lot of Egyptian customs radiated out and survived conquest, so with different neighbors chances are there would still be much that remains recognizable (unless the different neighbor managed to wipe them off the map). This ‘region determines the civilization in it down to the details’ idea feels pretty flawed to me. I don’t think you can say if the people founding Egypt had settled at the Euphrates instead, their civilization would have turned into Babylon and vice versa. [/QUOTE]

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