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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9512499" data-attributes="member: 58172">The reason why I mention Eberron in the context of Greyhawk:The 5e version of Eberron officially declared that it is part of the &quot;multiverse&quot;, thus officially creating the absurd situation where the Forgotten Realms gods objectively exist in the Eberron setting, but the Eberron gods might not exist in the Eberron setting. The absurdity annihilated the cultural relativity that is central to the feel of Eberron. There was outcry from Eberron fans about this.The response from Baker the creator of Eberron to this controversy was, it doesnt matter if the Forgotten Realms gods exist or not, because even if these creatures exist, they dont matter. The Eberron cultures would neither recognize the self-claims by these powerful creatures to be &quot;deities&quot; nor consider them to be worthy of worship. (This is kinda a reallife Buddhist attitude: if they exist at all they lack enlightenment.)Thus, now for 2024 Greyhawk. The socalled &quot;gods&quot; objectively exist. The &quot;greater gods&quot; almost never enter the Material Plane personally, but the &quot;lesser gods&quot; might. Even tho they exist, many cultures wont care. Tiamat claims to be a deity, and most cultures just dont care. Same goes for any Astral creature.So there will be atheists who dont care about these creatures, animists who value the relationships with nature, monotheists who have a sense of an infinite being, elementalists in tune with the fundament universal principles, philosophers, etcetera.Greyhawk can feel more like Eberron, especially when different cultures are doing different things and consider different things &quot;sacred&quot; and important.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9512499, member: 58172"] The reason why I mention Eberron in the context of Greyhawk: The 5e version of Eberron officially declared that it is part of the "multiverse", thus officially creating the absurd situation where the Forgotten Realms gods objectively exist in the Eberron setting, but the Eberron gods might not exist in the Eberron setting. The absurdity annihilated the cultural relativity that is central to the feel of Eberron. There was outcry from Eberron fans about this. The response from Baker the creator of Eberron to this controversy was, it doesnt matter if the Forgotten Realms gods exist or not, because even if these creatures exist, they dont matter. The Eberron cultures would neither recognize the self-claims by these powerful creatures to be "deities" nor consider them to be worthy of worship. (This is kinda a reallife Buddhist attitude: if they exist at all they lack enlightenment.) Thus, now for 2024 Greyhawk. The socalled "gods" objectively exist. The "greater gods" almost never enter the Material Plane personally, but the "lesser gods" might. Even tho they exist, many cultures wont care. Tiamat claims to be a deity, and most cultures just dont care. Same goes for any Astral creature. So there will be atheists who dont care about these creatures, animists who value the relationships with nature, monotheists who have a sense of an infinite being, elementalists in tune with the fundament universal principles, philosophers, etcetera. Greyhawk can feel more like Eberron, especially when different cultures are doing different things and consider different things "sacred" and important. [/QUOTE]

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