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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 9513654" data-attributes="member: 2303">I'm Swedish with German and Baltic ancestry, and I in no way take offense over the idea that Trillorans are of Suel descent. My view on the Suel are that they are Hollywood villains. As such they can be Romans, Vikings, Arabs, almost whatever as long as they were villains in a Hollywood film from the first half of the 20th century. They have as much or as little in common with real-world ethnic group as you desire. What is important is the blonde look and the (mainly villainous) role they play in the fiction. At the same time, the Suel are one of three parent-cultures of today's Flanaess culture, the others being Flan and Oerdians. All of these parent cultures produced many villains, who in turn produced many dungeons.In the fiction the old Suel empire lasted thousands of years, had internal differences that were both cultural, religious, and geographic, and underwent several major changes over time. The Scarlet Brotherhood are the Suel nazi-lookalikes of Oerth, and they are descended both physically and culturally from an extremist group in the old Suel empire. The Trillorans in contrast lost their magic and much of their original culture due to a massive curse during the period of migrations. They learned to hate and fear magic due to this curse. The language of these two groups is no longer mutually comprehensible. They are separate ethnicities today.About the people of the Trilloran peninsula being Suel making them nazis, it is like saying all Caucasians share in the sins of the early peoples of what is today Ukraine that we are all believed to descend from. But if Vikings are models of the Trillorans, the vikings did a lot of despicable things, like almost all ancient warrior peoples did. Plunders, slavery and human sacrifice was ubiquitous in the ancient world. The very term viking is misleading, it is not a people, it is an activity, raiding. As just as multiple ethnicities were pirates, multiple ethnicities engaged in viking raids. Pirate is actually a more appropriate word than viking.</blockquote>

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