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<blockquote data-quote="DDK" data-source="post: 708642" data-attributes="member: 6469"><p><strong>Re: Re: Greyhawk being dumped as the core setting in 3.5</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, well, you see... it's a very convoluted affair that I've argued ad nauseum elsewhere with GH nutters, from Dragonsfoot, to Greytalk, to Pied Piper Publishing's boards and even a few others, much more obscure.</p><p></p><p>Ok... where to start... umm... first off, IIRC, Anthony Valterra stated unequivocally that there was no specific GH product being created or conceivably will be created, ever by WotC.</p><p></p><p>However... nobody is ALLOWED to create anything for the setting aside from Kenzer who have some funky, weirdbutt licensing dealio that allows them to reference OD&D and 2nd ed. stuff which seems to include some Greyhawkania. Also, the Living Greyhawk setting has their modules and Erik Mona/Gary Holian do the Living Greyhawk Journal in Polyhedron.</p><p></p><p>But that's it, aside from that, WotC has knocked back offers for licensing deals, or so I've been told by the Greytalk crowd. I know of one licensing deal which is currently under negotiation (if the person who's stated he's doing it is to be believed) but it doesn't look promising.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It is commonly believed within the Greyhawk fan community (as much as anything can be commonly believed in such a splintered group) that if WotC were to drop GH as the default setting, that it would no longer have any real reason to hold onto the licensing of it and therefore GH fans would be free to write for the setting professionally.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, thereupon you hit on the crux of the dilemma. Whilst, in general, Greyhawk fans seem to want WotC to unleash their claws from the setting (after all, they disposed of Dark Sun, Planescape, Spelljammer, Dragonlance, etc.), and at the same time don't want to see it become as detailed as FR, there are still many fans who CRAVE some sort of new GH product.</p><p></p><p>The LGG was nice, but it was mostly a rehash and amalgamation of other, older sources. What little leeway the writers had was further quashed by Roger Moore (the editor), or so I've been told, so that there is basically little new material at all.</p><p></p><p>In other words, the last thing to be produced, as I understand it, was Roger Moore's 'The Adventure Begins', back in '98. Almost universally, this product is derided, even by the most open-minded and accepting of GH fans. So although it counts, it doesn't really count, if you know what I mean.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, like I said, WotC doesn't seem to want to license it out to anyone OR, the price is so high that no-one can afford it.</p><p></p><p>I've heard rumours that Green Ronin put in a bid (I have absolutely NO idea if that is true or not) but balked at the cost (rumoured to be $20k) and, as I said, I know of one other deal that is apparently in negotiations now, but since I've just been banned from the Greytalk chatroom... heh, you'll have to find out any more than that yerself <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>NOTE: I'd just like to say that all the above is basically just rumour and heresay. Keep that in mind when discussing this elsewhere or in any attempt to criticize what I've said. I'm only repeating what I know based on idle chatter in chatrooms and messageboards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DDK, post: 708642, member: 6469"] [b]Re: Re: Greyhawk being dumped as the core setting in 3.5[/b] Ah, well, you see... it's a very convoluted affair that I've argued ad nauseum elsewhere with GH nutters, from Dragonsfoot, to Greytalk, to Pied Piper Publishing's boards and even a few others, much more obscure. Ok... where to start... umm... first off, IIRC, Anthony Valterra stated unequivocally that there was no specific GH product being created or conceivably will be created, ever by WotC. However... nobody is ALLOWED to create anything for the setting aside from Kenzer who have some funky, weirdbutt licensing dealio that allows them to reference OD&D and 2nd ed. stuff which seems to include some Greyhawkania. Also, the Living Greyhawk setting has their modules and Erik Mona/Gary Holian do the Living Greyhawk Journal in Polyhedron. But that's it, aside from that, WotC has knocked back offers for licensing deals, or so I've been told by the Greytalk crowd. I know of one licensing deal which is currently under negotiation (if the person who's stated he's doing it is to be believed) but it doesn't look promising. It is commonly believed within the Greyhawk fan community (as much as anything can be commonly believed in such a splintered group) that if WotC were to drop GH as the default setting, that it would no longer have any real reason to hold onto the licensing of it and therefore GH fans would be free to write for the setting professionally. Well, thereupon you hit on the crux of the dilemma. Whilst, in general, Greyhawk fans seem to want WotC to unleash their claws from the setting (after all, they disposed of Dark Sun, Planescape, Spelljammer, Dragonlance, etc.), and at the same time don't want to see it become as detailed as FR, there are still many fans who CRAVE some sort of new GH product. The LGG was nice, but it was mostly a rehash and amalgamation of other, older sources. What little leeway the writers had was further quashed by Roger Moore (the editor), or so I've been told, so that there is basically little new material at all. In other words, the last thing to be produced, as I understand it, was Roger Moore's 'The Adventure Begins', back in '98. Almost universally, this product is derided, even by the most open-minded and accepting of GH fans. So although it counts, it doesn't really count, if you know what I mean. Well, like I said, WotC doesn't seem to want to license it out to anyone OR, the price is so high that no-one can afford it. I've heard rumours that Green Ronin put in a bid (I have absolutely NO idea if that is true or not) but balked at the cost (rumoured to be $20k) and, as I said, I know of one other deal that is apparently in negotiations now, but since I've just been banned from the Greytalk chatroom... heh, you'll have to find out any more than that yerself :) NOTE: I'd just like to say that all the above is basically just rumour and heresay. Keep that in mind when discussing this elsewhere or in any attempt to criticize what I've said. I'm only repeating what I know based on idle chatter in chatrooms and messageboards. [/QUOTE]
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