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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9348966" data-attributes="member: 6790260">The hilarious thing to me is, if you apply the same time gap to things that would be "classic rock" from the perspective of someone listening to music at the time, there's absolutely no shock. A band that formed in 1992 is 32 years old this year. 32 years before 1992 is 1960. Chubby Checker's cover of The Twist (AFAICT the most famous version of the song) came out in 1960. I guarantee you, anyone who was an eager fan of bands formed in the early 90s would have seen Chubby Checker as "classic" music at that point. The cutoff seems to be about 25-30 years; a track or album that lasts that long in the public eye has become classic.Or drive? Cars still have radios. Not sure why that even needs to be said, tbh.Absolutely. Both Basil Rathbone and Jeremy Brett did televised versions of Sherlock Holmes, but IMO the latter is quite clearly the definitive TV adaptation. Meanwhile, with the end of David Suchet's run of Hercule Poirot, we've got a new adaptation in town. I haven't seen enough of it to know whether it's good, but it's gonna have a damned hard time matching the Suchet version.Earlier is not necessarily better, and later is not necessarily better. Thinking earlier is always better is fawning traditionalism; thinking later is always better is chronological snobbery. We can, and should, do better.Alternatively, the fact that genres defined by old-ness grow with time, because more things become older the more time passes, means that our expectations of fixed and eternal categories were already busted to begin with. XM allows far greater specificity because it doesn't depend on appealing to a broad and evolving audience.Personally, I think it's a reflection of cycles of violence, and how those cycles spiral out of control--even when the young try their hardest to break that cycle. (After all, Romeo tried to refuse to fight Tybalt, and only killed him after he killed Mercutio.) "These kids are idiots" is certainly part of it, but the (family-)institutionalized hatred is the other critical part. In the absence of such entrenched hate, Romeo and Juliet could have been effectively the Tudors of Verona--but the body count is because of fanning the flames of hate, not because of teenagers who can't keep it in their pants.....but...but it literally talks about "every vow you break" and "every smile you fake" and...and it's... Like how can anyone listen to this and not realize it's a goddamn stalker? What? How can you listen to the song and not hear the words???Given we still read works more than a century older on the regular, and the most famous works of a century before that are still part of pop culture today, I sincerely doubt this will happen before 2250. Hell, we still make works based on Gulliver's Travels, "A Modest Proposal" remains an incredibly important work of English satire (to the point that it is still referenced by title alone today), Robinson Crusoe is still a viable reference for "deserted island"-type stories, and even some less-well-known works still hold influence today, like Samuel Taylor Coleridge's The Rime of the Ancient Mariner or Rudolph Erich Raspe's The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (Terry Gilliam's 1988 film adaptation thereof remains an old favorite of mine.) If a work of only modest influence can survive 200 years and still get a (relatively) faithful adaptation in new media, I don't think we've got any reason to fear Tolkien will vanish for a long time yet; the books are only 70 years old now.</blockquote>

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