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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 9356692" data-attributes="member: 6915329">"We" are a handful of people who are talking on a smallish forum. The majority of gamers aren't privy to this particular thread and started with 5e, not 3e or 3.5. And those long-time fans of the setting that are going to buy this book aren't on this thread to see our headcanons of how they exist or are viewed by the populace. Goliaths live with giants? Cool--but see, I wouldn't assume that, because I have no reason to assume that giants all live together. I normally assume goliaths are their own people who may be vaguely related to giants but don't have any particular reason to live with them. After all, elves are clearly related to humans, because they can interbreed, but they're rarely shown as living together. So if I were to buy this book and there's one line, "goliaths live with giants," my reaction would be "Why? That's dumb," not "Oh, I guess that makes sense."Tieflings come from wherever the heck Iuz is from? Except, don't the 5.5 tieflings have the option of demon, devil, and yugoloth heritage? Iuz is half-demon, right? So does that mean devil and yugoloth tieflings come from somewhere else? Or are we pretending they're all demon-blooded, just different types?Well, no. The books may say that there are good (and neutral) orcs, but as the idiom goes, show, don't tell and there's been precious few attempts to show many good or neutral orcs in any of the older settings--something that is (hopefully) going to change in upcoming books.Unsuitable for a chapter in the DMG on how to build your own world, perhaps. But we already went over this. Besides, Greyhawk does need some updating. It have some elements that can and should be expanded to turn it into something other than bog-standard fantasy. It has a crashed spaceship! Greyhawk could really lean into that--imagine if some clever dwarfs and gnomes got their hands on some of the tech in there, and figured out how to replicate that tech and access the ship's databanks? Imagine the effects that (science fiction, not real) radiation from that ship will have on the world around it. Having a medieval setting where there's also strange technology and mutants would turn Greyhawk from "same old, same old" to "very cool."(Many years ago, I read a novel called <a href="http://www.worldswithoutend.com/novel.asp?ID=79" target="_blank">Jack Faust</a>, a retelling of Faust, only Mephistopheles gave Faust modern knowledge. Much of the novel, as I recall, was exploring how how Europe was changing, both for good and for ill, with this incredible gush of information.)</blockquote>

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