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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8781150" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>Its a little tough to say. That linked posting talks about Veluna increasing from 250,000 to 688,000 and leads to an old blog post that is no longer there for supporting that the population increased so I have to look up numbers myself. </p><p></p><p>The 3.0 Gazetteer lists things differently for populations than 1e did. Veluna has one large city and two small cities listed in the 3.0 Gazetteer with no total population. Large cities in the Gazetteer have 12,001-25,000 people and small cities have 5,001-12,000 people, so Veluna has at least 22,003 people ranging up to 49,000 for those three cities and an unknown number outside of them.</p><p></p><p>In the 1e boxed set it says the capital Mitrik (the large city in 3.0) has a population of 12,600, which is within the large city range so a consistent population. The 1e box entry also says that Veluna has a population of 250,000 plus demihumans including 10,000 elves and 7,000 gnomes.</p><p></p><p>1e also gives a population marker on page 1 for the Darlene map settlements, but since they have the total population numbers that does not seem necessary to check.</p><p></p><p>The 3.0 Living Greyhawk Gazetteer keeps Mitrik at 12,600 as 1e and the 3.0 D&D Gazetteer and lists the same two small cities as in the 32 page 3.0 D&D Gazetteer and lists them at 7,900 and 11,100 so consistent so far.</p><p></p><p>We get down to the total population entry in the 3.0 LGG though and we get the 668,000 number. So that is where the discrepancy enters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8781150, member: 2209"] Its a little tough to say. That linked posting talks about Veluna increasing from 250,000 to 688,000 and leads to an old blog post that is no longer there for supporting that the population increased so I have to look up numbers myself. The 3.0 Gazetteer lists things differently for populations than 1e did. Veluna has one large city and two small cities listed in the 3.0 Gazetteer with no total population. Large cities in the Gazetteer have 12,001-25,000 people and small cities have 5,001-12,000 people, so Veluna has at least 22,003 people ranging up to 49,000 for those three cities and an unknown number outside of them. In the 1e boxed set it says the capital Mitrik (the large city in 3.0) has a population of 12,600, which is within the large city range so a consistent population. The 1e box entry also says that Veluna has a population of 250,000 plus demihumans including 10,000 elves and 7,000 gnomes. 1e also gives a population marker on page 1 for the Darlene map settlements, but since they have the total population numbers that does not seem necessary to check. The 3.0 Living Greyhawk Gazetteer keeps Mitrik at 12,600 as 1e and the 3.0 D&D Gazetteer and lists the same two small cities as in the 32 page 3.0 D&D Gazetteer and lists them at 7,900 and 11,100 so consistent so far. We get down to the total population entry in the 3.0 LGG though and we get the 668,000 number. So that is where the discrepancy enters. [/QUOTE]
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