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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9470688" data-attributes="member: 7023840">I am going to push back on this, slightly, and agree with [USER=6775477]@Shiroiken[/USER] above.I think people misunderstand what is meant when Greyhawk is referred to as &quot;humanocentric.&quot; It does not mean that there are only humans, of course. There are, and have always been, non-humans in Greyhawk!Instead, what the phrase means is that Greyhawk is a setting* where humans are the dominant political force, and while there are non-humans, most of them exist in much smaller quantities than do the humans, who have created and who run almost every single country, and most countries have small numbers of non-humans. I previously went through the '83 box set and explained why it was humanocentric (while also saying that the bizarre opposition of some people to, inter alia, Dragonborn was silly) here:[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://www.enworld.org/threads/moar-greyhawk-anthropocentrism-and-humanity-in-greyhawk.674359/[/URL]As I noted in that thread, looking at the demographics is enlightening. Many countries have little-to-no non-human (well, that was referring to demi-human back, aka, playable non-human) populations- less than the 2000 trigger. The entire number of them pales in comparison to just the human population of the Great Kingdom.In terms of numbers and politics, humanity dominates Greyhawk. That doesn't mean that there aren't dragonborn and tortles around, just that they are far fewer in number. *By &quot;Greyhawk&quot; I mean the known area of Greyhawk as depicted on the map originally made by Darlene and now updated and provided in the DMG. AKA, the eastern continent of Oerik, otherwise called the Flanaess. Your table is welcome to make the rest of the world (Oerth) however you want!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9470688, member: 7023840"] I am going to push back on this, slightly, and agree with [USER=6775477]@Shiroiken[/USER] above. I think people misunderstand what is meant when Greyhawk is referred to as "humanocentric." It does not mean that there are only humans, of course. There are, and have always been, non-humans in Greyhawk! Instead, what the phrase means is that Greyhawk is a setting* where humans are the dominant political force, and while there are non-humans, most of them exist in much smaller quantities than do the humans, who have created and who run almost every single country, and most countries have small numbers of non-humans. I previously went through the '83 box set and explained why it was humanocentric (while also saying that the bizarre opposition of some people to, inter alia, Dragonborn was silly) here: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/moar-greyhawk-anthropocentrism-and-humanity-in-greyhawk.674359/[/URL] As I noted in that thread, looking at the demographics is enlightening. Many countries have little-to-no non-human (well, that was referring to demi-human back, aka, playable non-human) populations- less than the 2000 trigger. The entire number of them pales in comparison to just the human population of the Great Kingdom. In terms of numbers and politics, humanity dominates Greyhawk. That doesn't mean that there aren't dragonborn and tortles around, just that they are far fewer in number. *By "Greyhawk" I mean the known area of Greyhawk as depicted on the map originally made by Darlene and now updated and provided in the DMG. AKA, the eastern continent of Oerik, otherwise called the Flanaess. Your table is welcome to make the rest of the world (Oerth) however you want! [/QUOTE]

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