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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9470779" data-attributes="member: 7023840">Well, I don't view anything as canonical after 1983, but that said, the 1983 demographics supports this (kinda).There are two relevant issues- first is the demographic information about Greyhawk. for humanoids* says that there are some humanoids.This may mean &quot;cool cool, do what you want.&quot; This would be supported by other entries for humanoids that are either applicable to evil countries (Horned Society, Bone March, etc.), countries that are dominated by humanoids (Pomarj) or countries that explicitly note that the presence of humanoids is for raiders only (Highfolk) or states that they are at the margins (Cruski/Ice Barbarians state that they are in the mountains). Further, the free city of Irongate has no humanoids.OTOH, most &quot;human&quot; kingdoms have between few or some, so it might be referring to those outside of human control. ON THE THIRD HAND, Greyhawk is the most eccentric and cosmopolitan city in Eastern Oerth, so why not? Also also, in the end, who cares? The point of Greyhawk is to make it your own.*I use the terms originally employed when talkin' GH demographics. Demi-humans meant &quot;playable non-human races&quot; that are &quot;normally not hostile to humans.&quot; Humanoids is orcs, kobolds, goblins and others that are &quot;at odds with humanity.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9470779, member: 7023840"] Well, I don't view anything as canonical after 1983, but that said, the 1983 demographics supports this (kinda). There are two relevant issues- first is the demographic information about Greyhawk. for humanoids* says that there are some humanoids. This may mean "cool cool, do what you want." This would be supported by other entries for humanoids that are either applicable to evil countries (Horned Society, Bone March, etc.), countries that are dominated by humanoids (Pomarj) or countries that explicitly note that the presence of humanoids is for raiders only (Highfolk) or states that they are at the margins (Cruski/Ice Barbarians state that they are in the mountains). Further, the free city of Irongate has no humanoids. OTOH, most "human" kingdoms have between few or some, so it might be referring to those outside of human control. ON THE THIRD HAND, Greyhawk is the most eccentric and cosmopolitan city in Eastern Oerth, so why not? Also also, in the end, who cares? The point of Greyhawk is to make it your own. *I use the terms originally employed when talkin' GH demographics. Demi-humans meant "playable non-human races" that are "normally not hostile to humans." Humanoids is orcs, kobolds, goblins and others that are "at odds with humanity." [/QUOTE]

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