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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwiceBorn2" data-source="post: 8238531" data-attributes="member: 7017725">Continuing on the subject of WotC's publication record vs. Greyhawk...Although not a setting book per se, we shouldn't forget that WotC also published two massive Greyhawk adventures for 3.0/3.5:<a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/28447/Return-to-the-Temple-of-Elemental-Evil-3e?term=return+to+the+temple" target="_blank">Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil</a><a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/54342/Expedition-to-the-Ruins-of-Castle-Greyhawk-35?src=also_purchased" target="_blank">Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk</a>Before that they published a Greyhawk campaign book (<a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17441/Greyhawk-The-Adventure-Begins-2e?term=adventure+begins" target="_blank">The Adventure Begins</a>), a <a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17435/Greyhawk-Players-Guide-2e?term=player%27s+guide+to+greyhawk" target="_blank">Greyhawk Player's Guide</a>, and several sourcebooks and modules for 2e between 1998-2000 (<a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17402/The-Scarlet-Brotherhood-2e?term=scarlet+brotherhood" target="_blank">The Scarlet Brotherhood</a>, <a href="https://ghwiki.greyparticle.com/index.php/Slavers" target="_blank">Slavers</a>, <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17438/The-Doomgrinder-2e" target="_blank">The Doomgrinder</a>, <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17437/Crypt-of-Lyzandred-the-Mad-2e" target="_blank">The Crypt of Lyzandred the Mad</a>, <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17436/The-Star-Cairns-2e" target="_blank">The Star Cairns</a>, <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17434/Greyhawk-Return-of-the-Eight-2e?src=also_purchased" target="_blank">Return of the Eight</a>, the <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17473/Return-to-the-Tomb-of-Horrors-2e?term=return+to+the+tomb+of+horrors" target="_blank">Return to the Tomb of Horrors</a> boxed set, <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17288/Against-the-Giants-The-Liberation-of-Geoff-2e?term=against" target="_blank">Against the Giants: The Liberation of Geoff</a>, <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17404/Return-to-White-Plume-Mountain-2e?term=return+to+white+" target="_blank">Return to White Plume Mountain</a>, and <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17359/Return-to-the-Keep-on-the-Borderlands-2e?term=return+to+the+keep" target="_blank">Return to the Keep on the Border Lands</a>).As recently as 2013, WotC compiled/expanded/re-issued the original <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/169626/A0A4-Against-the-Slave-Lords-1e" target="_blank">Against the Slave Lords</a> series of modules for 1e (yes, for 1e). That's only 1 year before the 5e core books came out.So while Greyhawk may face a competitive disadvantage in terms of setting identity/distinctiveness vs. the more recent settings, I still think there's a good possibility that WotC will release new Greyhawk material in 2024.Things I can see them releasing:. a limited edition reprint of the 1983 boxed set;. an updated Descent into the Depths of the Earth/Vault of the Drow/Queen of the Demonweb Pits combined with a mini gazetteer expanding the southwestern Flanaess beyond what was presented in Ghosts of Saltmarsh (easily converted to FR);. a City of Greyhawk book combined with a selection of short adventures (easily renamed and plopped into other settings);. a compilation of previously published adventures from Dungeon Mag set in Greyhawk;. or an updated campaign bookIt is worth noting that the comprehensive <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/28492/Living-Greyhawk-Gazetteer-30?term=living+greyhawk" target="_blank">Living Greyhawk Gazetteer</a>, was essentially edition neutral and focused on history, races, politics, geography, religion/gods, adventure hooks, and power players/influential organizations, with a full colour pull-out map; whenever it mentioned NPCs, they were given a race, alignment and level, and nothing else (much as was the case with the original Folio/1983 boxed set).I still think the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer is the best campaign book TSR/WotC have ever released regardless of setting, and I love its edition neutral design (giving DMs plenty of room to maneuver... I realize that will not be to everyone's taste). Not sure how people would react to an essentially edition neutral WotC product in 2021...That may not be much of a full setting "pitch" in itself, but I still think there are ways for WotC to turn a profit releasing material that is implicitly, if not explicitly Greyhawk (as they did with Ghosts of Saltmarsh and Tales from the Yawning Portal).</blockquote>

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