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<blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7805240" data-attributes="member: 6895991"><p>And again people [USER=7635]@Remathilis[/USER] intermingle fluff with rules. Dragonborn are fluff, they are not fixed 5e mechanical rules, there is nowhere in the PHB or DMG that they have to be part of a standard (vanilla) D&D setting. On contraire, like [USER=6799753]@lowkey13[/USER] pointed out, it is stated they are purely optional.</p><p></p><p>And people [USER=22779]@Hussar[/USER] intermingle profit interests, modern mindset and old grognards wishes about how to handle their favourite classic setting. When I read all the posts in this and other threads and count the posts pro modern approach aka make greyhawk another generic kitchen sink like FR and the posts that counter it, then I roughly guess it is 50:50 .</p><p>But the people who are contra to the kitchen sink option are mostly the people who actually use this setting and playing their campaigns in it. That is at least my impression. So why would you cater to the others who are not the people who use this setting? From an economical point of view, that is as stupid as it can be:</p><p></p><p>The people who do not use the setting yet will either not buy any new material on it no matter if it contains dragonborn - which seems to be a major coax to acquire new material - except for magic (Ravnica) where for some reason (unknown to me) all the inclusive / no fantasy racism etc yadda does not apply. OR those potential customers will buy it because they are interested in it, because it is something new (like Ravnica) no matter what races are in it.</p><p></p><p>The people who do use the setting will eventually not buy the new stuff because they hate that their setting is altered in a way they do not like. Eventually they will buy it and mod it to their needs but chances are slim.</p><p></p><p>IMHO wizards should rather not opt to bring out anything greyhawk other than in the form of some adventures, like GoS. Because of the reasons I gave above, the number of customers would be slim, compared to some other stuff, aka eberron or some new FR stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coroc, post: 7805240, member: 6895991"] And again people [USER=7635]@Remathilis[/USER] intermingle fluff with rules. Dragonborn are fluff, they are not fixed 5e mechanical rules, there is nowhere in the PHB or DMG that they have to be part of a standard (vanilla) D&D setting. On contraire, like [USER=6799753]@lowkey13[/USER] pointed out, it is stated they are purely optional. And people [USER=22779]@Hussar[/USER] intermingle profit interests, modern mindset and old grognards wishes about how to handle their favourite classic setting. When I read all the posts in this and other threads and count the posts pro modern approach aka make greyhawk another generic kitchen sink like FR and the posts that counter it, then I roughly guess it is 50:50 . But the people who are contra to the kitchen sink option are mostly the people who actually use this setting and playing their campaigns in it. That is at least my impression. So why would you cater to the others who are not the people who use this setting? From an economical point of view, that is as stupid as it can be: The people who do not use the setting yet will either not buy any new material on it no matter if it contains dragonborn - which seems to be a major coax to acquire new material - except for magic (Ravnica) where for some reason (unknown to me) all the inclusive / no fantasy racism etc yadda does not apply. OR those potential customers will buy it because they are interested in it, because it is something new (like Ravnica) no matter what races are in it. The people who do use the setting will eventually not buy the new stuff because they hate that their setting is altered in a way they do not like. Eventually they will buy it and mod it to their needs but chances are slim. IMHO wizards should rather not opt to bring out anything greyhawk other than in the form of some adventures, like GoS. Because of the reasons I gave above, the number of customers would be slim, compared to some other stuff, aka eberron or some new FR stuff. [/QUOTE]
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