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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7994283" data-attributes="member: 1465">I only remember those from the early splatbooks, and even vaguely since I haven't opened mine for longer than a decade...Generally speaking, I think not many 3rd edition prestige classes would make good 5e subclasses. The reason is twofold:1) 3e prestige classes were (mostly) meant to be usable by different classes, 5e subclasses are specializations of a single class.So while it is OK to design a "Fist of Hextor" subclass of the 5e Fighter (because it's really only about fighting), it is not really a good idea IMHO for others. For instance the "Fang of Lolth" is really a classless concept. Better to make it a curse or something else but ad-hoc.2) The vast majority of 3e prestige classes had very few unique abilities in the course of 10 levels, and mostly granted minor bonuses which weren't really defining features, plus bonus feats or spellcasting levels.This IMHO makes it pointless and artificial to turn them into subclasses, because if you do so then you have to fit them into whatever number of levels the base class has available for subclasses features, and follow their progression. Well of course one way would be to figure out new abilities that fit the concept, but personally I think it makes more sense to turn them into feats.For example (even if not Greyhawk-specific) the old Loremaster, Archmage and Hierophant were really lacking any progression. They granted +1 level in your spellcasting class, which you would have gained anyway without the prestige class. Then they granted bonus abilities which you would cherrypick at each level. What sense would it make to have these as 5e subclasses? If there's some cool cherrypick ability that would be nice in 5e, better pick only that and turn it into a 5e feat. And 5e feat are "large" enough so that they can in fact accomodate multiple benefits inspired by a 3e prestige class.---That said, speaking about your list (and keeping in mind I only vaguely remember some of these), I can't help but notice so many of them being some sort of "holy warrior" of a specific deity. So it might make more sense to just have a Cleric equivalent of the PHB Eldritch Knight, which then a player would tailor to a specific deity. Perhaps the spells learned by this new Fighter subclass would be from one clerical domain (of the chosen deity) + some more spells chosen from the general Cleric list. Of course this is not at all Greyhawk-specific so I can understand if this suggestion feels underwhelming... but I feel like those prestige classes were in fact mass-produced in 3e just because they liked the idea of publishing lots of prestige classes, one per Greyhawk deity, even if perhaps they had no prior history in the Greyhawk setting (or did they?).I vaguely remember instead the Ur-Priest being something like an anti-cleric i.e. opposed to all deities? That could be an interesting concept of its own. It could be definitely a new Cleric Domain, even though it requires some special explanation on how such character would be able to cast clerical spells, but it could be done. Also, it could have a special rule similar to the Paladin's Oathbreaker, that a character could acquire the Ur Domain later than 1st-level and be retrofitted by replacing all the previous abilities with those of the new domain.</blockquote>

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