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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magister Ludorum" data-source="post: 7995747" data-attributes="member: 6862253">Too many Greyhawk fans have vociferously expressed their opinion that any Greyhawk product must have ...<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">no races that weren't in that setting back in 1e/2e edition</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">no classes that weren't in that setting back in 1e/2e</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">codified rules for racial hatred between NPCs</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">an emphasis on humanocentricism</li> </ul>I've even seen posts in this forum arguing for ...<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">racial level limits</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">lower STR maxima for female characters</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">low magic</li> </ul>Nostalgia is one of the most toxic things in gaming (heck in human culture in general). I can feel pretty secure in making the prediction that no version of Greyhawk that follows any of these tropes will ever see print. It's no longer the 1970s and 1980s.I've run Greyhawk from the folio since 1980 or so. I've always introduced new races and new classes as they came along.I don't need an update of this setting since ... <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I disregard the entire published metaplot</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">there are no new mechanics necessary to run a 5e game set in Greyhawk</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">there is no consensus amongst Greyhawk fans as to what they want in a Greyhawk setting book</li> </ul>BTW, I like the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer, but I still prefer the version of Greyhawk in the folio. I prefer the Great Kingdom to be whole and Iuz to be still on the rise.I am currently running from the LGG in Nyrond. The general theme of that chronicle is Iuz (since that's what the players wanted). I have already outlined the tier 4 adventures where the characters try to follow in the steps of Zagyg Yragerne and trap Iuz beneath Castle Greyhawk. [I doubt most of them read these forums.]The other Greyhawk game I'm running is in southern Keoland and ties into some of the adventures in Ghosts of Saltmarsh. It's set in the folio era.</blockquote>

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