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Greyhawk: Why We Need Mo' Oerth by 2024
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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8646899" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>We definitely don't "need" more Greyhawk.</p><p></p><p>Equally definitely, we're going to get more Greyhawk, for the very simple reason that the people who work at WotC are <em>terminally obsessed</em> with Greyhawk, and have attempted to "make it happen" multiple times during their ownership of D&D, not letting repeated complete failures get them down or put them off lol. Indeed, when they fail, they insist on just jamming elements of Greyhawk's cosmology/history into other settings.</p><p></p><p>Your vision for Greyhawk would be a modern, and potentially interesting take which could actually justify the existence of Greyhawk for once.</p><p></p><p>That is not, I guarantee, what we will get. What we will get is merely an expurgated and updated Greyhawk. There will be Dragonborn, Tieflings, perhaps even Goliaths etc. They won't be worked into the world particularly well. Any parts of the world which are "socially unacceptable" will but cut or modified (probably for the best), but it won't otherwise be updated.</p><p></p><p>Why? Because since WotC got burned by the mildly-daring 4E, they've been playing it ultra-safe with D&D, and yeah, they're playing it a tiny bit less safe now, but Greyhawk? 50th anniversary? They're going to play it safe. None of the cool ideas you have will happen. It'll just be a particularly boring take on Greyhawk that doesn't please grognards, and leaves newer players deeply confused as to why anyone would give two shakes of a lambs tail about this ultra-generic setting, which to them will look like the FR but with less detail and somehow even sillier names (!!!).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8646899, member: 18"] We definitely don't "need" more Greyhawk. Equally definitely, we're going to get more Greyhawk, for the very simple reason that the people who work at WotC are [I]terminally obsessed[/I] with Greyhawk, and have attempted to "make it happen" multiple times during their ownership of D&D, not letting repeated complete failures get them down or put them off lol. Indeed, when they fail, they insist on just jamming elements of Greyhawk's cosmology/history into other settings. Your vision for Greyhawk would be a modern, and potentially interesting take which could actually justify the existence of Greyhawk for once. That is not, I guarantee, what we will get. What we will get is merely an expurgated and updated Greyhawk. There will be Dragonborn, Tieflings, perhaps even Goliaths etc. They won't be worked into the world particularly well. Any parts of the world which are "socially unacceptable" will but cut or modified (probably for the best), but it won't otherwise be updated. Why? Because since WotC got burned by the mildly-daring 4E, they've been playing it ultra-safe with D&D, and yeah, they're playing it a tiny bit less safe now, but Greyhawk? 50th anniversary? They're going to play it safe. None of the cool ideas you have will happen. It'll just be a particularly boring take on Greyhawk that doesn't please grognards, and leaves newer players deeply confused as to why anyone would give two shakes of a lambs tail about this ultra-generic setting, which to them will look like the FR but with less detail and somehow even sillier names (!!!). [/QUOTE]
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