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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8646938" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, it's pretty obvious. You don't push a setting expecting to fail, expecting it to go nowhere, do you? It's not like they've done that with other pre-existing settings.You seem to be implying conspiracy-theory-adjacent stuff where WotC never planned for Greyhawk to succeed, they were always intending it to fail, or be a flop or whatever. I mean, that's when the cat falls off a fence and looks at you like "I MEANT TO DO THAT!". I don't buy that from the cat and I sure don't buy it here. So yeah anything that doesn't result in it catching on? That's a "complete" failure. A partial failure would be it becoming popular enough to merit more setting material being produced steadily, but it still not displacing the FR as the "default" setting - something it notably failed to do in 3E, despite WotC seeming to want it to.As for public, I think the most we've seen is WotC have often had people talk fondly and publicly about how much they like Greyhawk. More than any other setting. I've certainly not heard as much love from senior (albeit many now ex-) WotC employees for literally any other setting (especially if you disregard hype before a setting comes out). Not even the FR which is the core setting in 5E.Also, whilst the internet of that era is dead and gone (even from the Wayback Machine in most cases), I'm pretty WotC actively expressed disappointment that Greyhawk didn't catch on in 3E.</blockquote>

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