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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8647270" data-attributes="member: 19857"><p>I suspect that it's more that they always intended to support the Realms with a full campaign line push - I vaguely remember them talking about it when 3e was released. The Realms were the big setting in 1999 - successful novel lines, multiple computer games over the years (including Baldur's Gate, which had just come out the year before), and a large for the time Living Raven's Bluff RPGA campaign being run at cons. It was THE core setting for D&D - even moreso than it has been for 5e in some ways.</p><p></p><p>I remember being a bit baffled at the decision to make Greyhawk the default setting for the 3e PHB. In retrospect I think Wizards was trying to spin up Greyhawk as another Realms-level behemoth of a setting that they could have novels, computer games, a living RPGA campaign, and whatnot around. But it didn't work - and they eventually decided to make a new setting to try to be the second major D&D setting. And so we got the "make a new setting" contest and Eberron for 3e.</p><p></p><p>(As for why it didn't work - I think there are multiple reasons. One IMO is because of the mismatch between what the D&D default setting actually was by 1999 and what Greyhawk is. To sell Greyhawk even in 1999 you probably needed to emphasize its differences from the Realms, and its position as the "default setting" made that really impossible to do.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8647270, member: 19857"] I suspect that it's more that they always intended to support the Realms with a full campaign line push - I vaguely remember them talking about it when 3e was released. The Realms were the big setting in 1999 - successful novel lines, multiple computer games over the years (including Baldur's Gate, which had just come out the year before), and a large for the time Living Raven's Bluff RPGA campaign being run at cons. It was THE core setting for D&D - even moreso than it has been for 5e in some ways. I remember being a bit baffled at the decision to make Greyhawk the default setting for the 3e PHB. In retrospect I think Wizards was trying to spin up Greyhawk as another Realms-level behemoth of a setting that they could have novels, computer games, a living RPGA campaign, and whatnot around. But it didn't work - and they eventually decided to make a new setting to try to be the second major D&D setting. And so we got the "make a new setting" contest and Eberron for 3e. (As for why it didn't work - I think there are multiple reasons. One IMO is because of the mismatch between what the D&D default setting actually was by 1999 and what Greyhawk is. To sell Greyhawk even in 1999 you probably needed to emphasize its differences from the Realms, and its position as the "default setting" made that really impossible to do.) [/QUOTE]
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