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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 8651077" data-attributes="member: 7025282"><p>I liked this comment since it would appear that you might have read about the setting.</p><p></p><p>One thing that becomes hard to track is what influences other memories have on the setting materials. For some like me, things we read and experienced include a little dragon magazine, material from modules and so on—-the campaign material alone is pretty bare bones.</p><p></p><p> And the old art probably got linked in the eyes of fans even if peripherally related. It forms a zeitgeist. I think of cloaks and kilts in grey hawk and cravats and frilly sleeves in the realms.</p><p></p><p>I can say that not every corner being filled in is a draw. There are effective hints of ominous things. There is mystery—-I know enough about tharizdun to be interested and wary but not enough to be too familiar and habituated.</p><p></p><p>Less is not a feel though or aesthetic in itself! But I get a more medieval vs Renaissance feel from grey hawk. It feels more 1300s to me and leas 1450-1500. And some acid trip mixed in…</p><p></p><p>Things don’t fit together too conveniently. Yes there are some good orders but there aren’t harpers on every corner. (Thank pelor!). The materials suggest less omniscient players in the world. There are secrets and a lot of things stay secret.</p><p></p><p>I like the naming better for people and places—-as absurd some of their origins are. The deities? Wee Jas, Hextor and Pelor? Yeah. I like them better personally. How is the feel different. Hard to explain.</p><p></p><p>Some of it is admittedly hard to pin down. But I would say this: I don’t buy the criticism that it’s been done by realms. Why bother?</p><p></p><p>For me it’s like saying Nu Metal did power chords and wall of sound…Why listen to Black Sabbath?! Let me count the reasons. And watch me struggle to explain them.</p><p></p><p>Yeah it’s more blues infused. No? Not enough? It’s darker. New music uses minor chords too? It’s got a dark syrupy fuzzed out sound that hints at something dark.</p><p></p><p>Yeah well I never listened to it much, why would I? Yes, it’s hard to draw short pithy lines of distinctions but it’s <em>different. I swear. </em></p><p></p><p>I would say the real question here is would it have an audience. I don’t know. When I saw Black Sabbath in concert in the 90s, there were a lot of younger people going nuts for them (self included!).</p><p></p><p>Would it sell like some of the more familiar stuff? That’s the rub and that’s the question. People know and lap up the realms…it’s had a lot more love and familiarity breeds liking.</p><p></p><p>But for me Black Sabbath is no Limp Bizkit no matter what their rotation was on MTV…when they played music, of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warpiglet-7, post: 8651077, member: 7025282"] I liked this comment since it would appear that you might have read about the setting. One thing that becomes hard to track is what influences other memories have on the setting materials. For some like me, things we read and experienced include a little dragon magazine, material from modules and so on—-the campaign material alone is pretty bare bones. And the old art probably got linked in the eyes of fans even if peripherally related. It forms a zeitgeist. I think of cloaks and kilts in grey hawk and cravats and frilly sleeves in the realms. I can say that not every corner being filled in is a draw. There are effective hints of ominous things. There is mystery—-I know enough about tharizdun to be interested and wary but not enough to be too familiar and habituated. Less is not a feel though or aesthetic in itself! But I get a more medieval vs Renaissance feel from grey hawk. It feels more 1300s to me and leas 1450-1500. And some acid trip mixed in… Things don’t fit together too conveniently. Yes there are some good orders but there aren’t harpers on every corner. (Thank pelor!). The materials suggest less omniscient players in the world. There are secrets and a lot of things stay secret. I like the naming better for people and places—-as absurd some of their origins are. The deities? Wee Jas, Hextor and Pelor? Yeah. I like them better personally. How is the feel different. Hard to explain. Some of it is admittedly hard to pin down. But I would say this: I don’t buy the criticism that it’s been done by realms. Why bother? For me it’s like saying Nu Metal did power chords and wall of sound…Why listen to Black Sabbath?! Let me count the reasons. And watch me struggle to explain them. Yeah it’s more blues infused. No? Not enough? It’s darker. New music uses minor chords too? It’s got a dark syrupy fuzzed out sound that hints at something dark. Yeah well I never listened to it much, why would I? Yes, it’s hard to draw short pithy lines of distinctions but it’s [I]different. I swear. [/I] I would say the real question here is would it have an audience. I don’t know. When I saw Black Sabbath in concert in the 90s, there were a lot of younger people going nuts for them (self included!). Would it sell like some of the more familiar stuff? That’s the rub and that’s the question. People know and lap up the realms…it’s had a lot more love and familiarity breeds liking. But for me Black Sabbath is no Limp Bizkit no matter what their rotation was on MTV…when they played music, of course. [/QUOTE]
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