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<blockquote data-quote="FraserRonald" data-source="post: 721285" data-attributes="member: 7892">Good ideas. It's interesting as I had heard of VPs before, but hadn't actually seen the rules until this weekend. I can't say I'm a fan, as they are simply another layer of the abstract hit point rules I was fleeing from. I think they could have a place, perhaps as you have indicated their use, though I would rather see them, or a variant of them, used as a type of fatigue monitor. I think the other aspects incorporated into the regular hit point rules are covered in Mr. Hood's system, save perhaps luck, which might be hard to quantify.Don't have martial arts in this particular campaign, but you have brought up a blind spot in Mr. Hood's rules. Nice innovation.The critical rule makes sense, but the penetration variant seems strange, if I understand it right. I'm not sure how this would work, unless all weapons are given a penetration value. Even then, armour would become useful only against weapons of lower penetration, which seems contrary to Mr. Hood's penetration rules, which I rather like. Am I misunderstanding your comment? Wouldn't be the first time.Absolutely. Actually, in my campaign, I've instituted the &quot;odds equal one&quot; rule as well as the &quot;diminished dice&quot; rule. Certain NPC spellcasters only deal with the &quot;dimished dice&quot; rule, but that is simply to make them even more frightening, like those sorcerers and wizards in the Lanhkmar books and Conan.Innovation leads to innovation. That's cool. I have little time to work on rules these days (which is why I was so happy to find Mr. Hood's work, which mirrors very closely what I had been hoping to achieve with my own work) but when I have more time, I'm, hoping to flesh out the Grim-N-Gritty rules to better work in my particular campaign.Thanks for the input! Take care!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FraserRonald, post: 721285, member: 7892"] Good ideas. It's interesting as I had heard of VPs before, but hadn't actually seen the rules until this weekend. I can't say I'm a fan, as they are simply another layer of the abstract hit point rules I was fleeing from. I think they could have a place, perhaps as you have indicated their use, though I would rather see them, or a variant of them, used as a type of fatigue monitor. I think the other aspects incorporated into the regular hit point rules are covered in Mr. Hood's system, save perhaps luck, which might be hard to quantify. Don't have martial arts in this particular campaign, but you have brought up a blind spot in Mr. Hood's rules. Nice innovation. The critical rule makes sense, but the penetration variant seems strange, [I]if[/I] I understand it right. I'm not sure how this would work, unless all weapons are given a penetration value. Even then, armour would become useful only against weapons of lower penetration, which seems contrary to Mr. Hood's penetration rules, which I rather like. Am I misunderstanding your comment? Wouldn't be the first time. Absolutely. Actually, in my campaign, I've instituted the "odds equal one" rule as well as the "diminished dice" rule. Certain NPC spellcasters only deal with the "dimished dice" rule, but that is simply to make them even more frightening, like those sorcerers and wizards in the Lanhkmar books and Conan. Innovation leads to innovation. That's cool. I have little time to work on rules these days (which is why I was so happy to find Mr. Hood's work, which mirrors very closely what I had been hoping to achieve with my own work) but when I have more time, I'm, hoping to flesh out the Grim-N-Gritty rules to better work in my particular campaign. Thanks for the input! Take care! [/QUOTE]

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