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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 2220085" data-attributes="member: 94">DC15, IIRC.These people are supposed to be fragile. And if you don't want to play a smart-but-fragile character, but rather a smart-but-durable character, pick up Great Fortitude. It's not as if feats are hard to come by.Why then the tendency to tie the threshold itself to level?From a dramatic tension point of view, you are still better off forcing them to, "Dear God, don't roll a 1..." than not having them roll at all because you've inflated the MDT itself to the point where the Save never comes up.I disagree. Players who have nurtured a character to 10th level and beyond feel rather a lot of tension over a 1 in 20 chance of failing that roll. (Full disclosure: GT recommends that a failed roll drop the PC to dying, not dead.)Do you really sweat a saving throw less when you can only fail if you roll a 1? That's not my experience.I think it depends a great deal on whether you are playing a one-shot weekend game with pre-gen 10th level characters, or whether you've successfully nurtured a character from 1st to 10th level or higher. But that's a completely different dynamic that has nothing to do with MDT or the save DC.</blockquote>