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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Old One" data-source="post: 2020914" data-attributes="member: 83">Questions...Wulf,Thanks for clarifying the relationship between F-2/F-3.  Another question comes to mind...specifically regarding dragons.  Let's say we are using an Adult Black (CR 11, Large, 40' Cone BW, 180' radius fear effect).  The dragon attacks a unit of 200 Level 2 Warriors led by a 5th level captain (BR 20).  Since the dragon essentially has two area of effect attacks - breath weapon and fear - would those effects stack or would you make 2 separate attacks?It seems like the more logical way to do it would just be to stack the effects, so the dragon's attack would be 1d20 + 15 (normal BR) + 9 (40' cone attack affects 28 medium targets, yielding +9 on Table F-2) +15 (180' radius fear effect can affect the maximum number on Table F-3 - 1,810 - but it is limited by the actual size of the unit on Table F-2).  This yields a total attack factor of 1d20 + 39 vs. the unit's defense of 30 (10 + 20 BR)...is that correct?If so...does the unit make 2 saves or a single save.  I guess if the effects are combined it would be a single save.  I suppose the other way to treat the fear effect would be to treat as a seperate attack that lowers morale...but that seems to be adding another step.~ OO</blockquote>