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Grim'n'Gritty - 3d6/2d10 instead of d20?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ilja" data-source="post: 4893685" data-attributes="member: 84300"><p>Of course it makes a difference! When you hit on a 10 or more, it won't make a difference, but if you in RAW have AB +3 and your opponent AC 23, you only hit 1/20. Here, he'll have defense +13 and so 50% of the time you will have more than 1/20 chance of hitting him. Also, it makes a big difference since it isn't a hit- or miss situation. Since difference is added to damage, it has a very big impact.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, I can see it being quite a large danger. A dagger does 1d4, x2 on a critical. A 1-st level commoner dealing on an average 5 damage, resulting in a DC 15 fort save or die. A 10th-level fighter with 15 con will have to roll a 6 or higher to survive, not counting any feats or magic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It isn't THAT deadly. You do get a defense bonus (like an AC bonus) based on character level, and this effectively reduces the damage. First of, the chance of getting hit is far less than in RAW. Secondly, take two fifth-level fighters both with Str 16 and Con 14 (both having 19 hp). Say that both carry masterwork longswords and full plate mails. Say that one hits the other, beating the defense value by 5 (which is quite much). This means that his damage is 1d8+6+5, on an average 15. The full plate mail reduces the damage by 8, meaning the fighter takes 7 damage, about 1/3 of his hit points. It's a bad hit, but it's not like he'll fall to the floor instantly.</p><p></p><p>But yes, combat should be dangerous. This isn't meant for kick-in-the-door style of play, but rather adventures where you might want to find other options than to beat up the opponents, even if it's just a bunch of orcs.</p><p>So it's very deliberate. Several of the players are used to the Swedish game EON, and well... There are<a href="http://www.neogames.se/rollformular_4_big.jpg" target="_blank"> four pages like this</a> just for character sheets, and most middle-aged fighters lack at least an arm or a leg or two. So this will be quite a walk in the park, both when it comes to danger and bookkeeping.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilja, post: 4893685, member: 84300"] Of course it makes a difference! When you hit on a 10 or more, it won't make a difference, but if you in RAW have AB +3 and your opponent AC 23, you only hit 1/20. Here, he'll have defense +13 and so 50% of the time you will have more than 1/20 chance of hitting him. Also, it makes a big difference since it isn't a hit- or miss situation. Since difference is added to damage, it has a very big impact. Actually, I can see it being quite a large danger. A dagger does 1d4, x2 on a critical. A 1-st level commoner dealing on an average 5 damage, resulting in a DC 15 fort save or die. A 10th-level fighter with 15 con will have to roll a 6 or higher to survive, not counting any feats or magic. It isn't THAT deadly. You do get a defense bonus (like an AC bonus) based on character level, and this effectively reduces the damage. First of, the chance of getting hit is far less than in RAW. Secondly, take two fifth-level fighters both with Str 16 and Con 14 (both having 19 hp). Say that both carry masterwork longswords and full plate mails. Say that one hits the other, beating the defense value by 5 (which is quite much). This means that his damage is 1d8+6+5, on an average 15. The full plate mail reduces the damage by 8, meaning the fighter takes 7 damage, about 1/3 of his hit points. It's a bad hit, but it's not like he'll fall to the floor instantly. But yes, combat should be dangerous. This isn't meant for kick-in-the-door style of play, but rather adventures where you might want to find other options than to beat up the opponents, even if it's just a bunch of orcs. So it's very deliberate. Several of the players are used to the Swedish game EON, and well... There are[URL="http://www.neogames.se/rollformular_4_big.jpg"] four pages like this[/URL] just for character sheets, and most middle-aged fighters lack at least an arm or a leg or two. So this will be quite a walk in the park, both when it comes to danger and bookkeeping. [/QUOTE]
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